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    IMC I've had to work out how all the various planar travel spells and effects work. For most of them I translated travel to the Ethereal or Astral as the Shadow World, but the one possible exception was the Gate spell, which creates a direct portal. For a travelling (or summoning) Gate, I think travel to any plane or dimension should be possible, bypassing the SW entirely, but this of course relies on knowledge of any places beyond the SW, which is mostly (if not entirely) lacking in Cerilia. However, arcane/religious scholars have surely asked, "Where do fiends, celestials, and elementals come from, anyways?"

    I once had a Birthright PC, Alec Darkstar (a halfling arcane trickster), get randomly transported to a random plane via a Prismatic Spray effect...he ended up in Ysgard, and I concocted a little solo mini-adventure for him in which he eventually made his way to Asgard, and with the help of Odin himself, managed to gate back to Cerilia...though Odin was quite curious about this Cerilia, particularly the Rjurik folk Alec described...

    A nice little can of worms, I thought - just opening the door for an alien yet similar deity to probe Cerilia for potential converts. Wouldn't that be interesting...a Norse cult starting in Rjurik or Vosgaard? Cerilians have never really been challenged by outside pantheons before, at least not human ones.

    All of this brought up the metaphysical issue of the Shadow World being a sort of barrier or shield between Aebrynis and the rest of the multiverse, and the question of how outsiders would or could penetrate such a barrier. I was thinking that if some worshippers began to follow a foreign deity, it might create a sort of window through which that deity could become connected to Aebrynis through the SW...I figure this is how the non-native demihuman and humanoid deities (like Moradin or possibly Yeenough) have worshippers in Aebrynis.

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    At 07:29 AM 5/10/2005 +0200, Cuiraecen wrote:



    >Sorry to back up to the debate about the gods actually being dead but...if

    >I recall my Planescape, don`t the "bodies"(essences?) of dead gods lie

    >around in the Astral plane?



    Yup, they sure do... mostly.



    >I`ve always thought it`d be slick if a group of planar lore scholars

    >discovered this about the Astral, and tracked down a body of one of the

    >old gods (Azrai, perhaps?). If the body can be found, who`s to say that

    >the god cannot be resurrected? I started writing up a Planescape/BR

    >adventure around this, but never ended it.



    Interestingly enough, in Monte Cook`s Planescape accessory, _A Guide to the

    Astral Plane_. In the "Forgotten Husks: Dead Gods" chapter under the

    heading "The Fallen We Have Known" (p38) is the text:



    "The Athar`s list includes powers such as Amaunator, Anduiras, Aoskar,

    Bane, Basaia, [sic] Bhaal, Brenna, Dark God, Enki, Ibrandul, Kiputytto,

    Leira, Masela, Moander, Myrkul, Phissanol, Reynir, Vorynn, and many more."



    Note that even though the rest of the Cerilian gods are there, Azrai is

    not. He could be one of the "many more" of course, but it seems more

    likely to me to be a purposeful omission rather than an error.



    If purposefully omitted it would seem to indicate that Azrai might be some

    sort of exception to the rule, that he might still be alive (perhaps

    embodied in the Cold Rider of the SW) or otherwise somewhere between the

    states of living and death (or undeath and living, depending on your POV, I

    suppose.)



    Gary

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    Old Gods: Cities of the Sun Campaign Expansion

    Does anyone know anything Kalisius?

    He is mentioned briefly in "Coils of the Serpent" on pg. 84.

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    There doesn't seem to be much on Kalisius except for his mention on that page. It does say Kalisius is a false god; it could be one the gods that the Serpent invented for his own pantheon.

    Or perhaps you could treat Kalisius as a demon prince who fooled the people into worshipping him.

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