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  1. #11
    Darkstar
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    House Rule Dispute

    JNeighb934@aol.com wrote:

    > > Under the standard rules, the rule action already has a 13+ success roll,
    > > due to having to add the "target" province level to the original (10+)
    > > success number.
    >
    > I'm sorry, but where is that rule written? I don't see it under the "Rule"
    > description.

    It's on page 48, under Resolving Actions. It should have been in the
    description for the rule action as it has been very confusing,
    especially for people like me who read the rule a bit at a time.


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  2. #12
    JNeighb934@aol.co
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    House Rule Dispute

    In a message dated 05/31/99 22:38:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    JNeighb934@aol.com writes:

    > > Under the standard rules, the rule action already has a 13+ success roll,
    > > due to having to add the "target" province level to the original (10+)
    > > success number.
    >
    > I'm sorry, but where is that rule written? I don't see it under the
    "Rule"
    > description.

    Nevermind, I found it. Apparently it was accidentally left out of the Rule
    action description. I like the idea of adding the target province level as
    modifier to the success roll for ruling provinces, do you think they meant
    the same for holdings, too? That the new target holding level should be
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  3. #13
    David Sean Brown
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    House Rule Dispute

    > > Under the standard rules, the rule action already has a 13+ success roll,
    > > due to having to add the "target" province level to the original (10+)
    > > success number.
    >
    > I'm sorry, but where is that rule written? I don't see it under the "Rule"
    > description.
    I believe it is discussed in the section immediately preceeding the
    description of all the domain actions (page jsut opposinte the big chart
    of actions)..haven't got my RB here, but I know its there somewhere..

    Sean

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  4. #14
    Memnoch
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    House Rule Dispute

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: JNeighb934@aol.com
    To: birthright@lists.imagiconline.com
    Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:47 AM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - House Rule Dispute


    >In a message dated 05/31/99 17:12:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    >memnoch@comic.net writes:
    >
    >> Under the standard rules, the rule action already has a 13+ success roll,
    >> due to having to add the "target" province level to the original (10+)
    >> success number.
    >
    >I'm sorry, but where is that rule written? I don't see it under the "Rule"
    >description.


    See Page 48 second column under "Resolving Actions". Second Paragraph.

    "Success number can be modified in two ways. First, the action may require
    the province or holding rating to be used as a modifier to the roll. For
    example, repeatedly raising a province's level becomes increasingly
    difficult, so the success number for a rule action (a 10) is raised by the
    province's rating. Thus, a regent trying to rule a province (5) to a rating
    of (6) must succeed a roll vs. 16, not 10."

    Hope this helps,

    Memnoch

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  5. #15
    Memnoch
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    House Rule Dispute

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: JNeighb934@aol.com
    To: birthright@lists.imagiconline.com
    Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:10 AM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - House Rule Dispute


    >In a message dated 05/31/99 22:38:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    >JNeighb934@aol.com writes:
    >
    >> > Under the standard rules, the rule action already has a 13+ success
    roll,
    >> > due to having to add the "target" province level to the original
    (10+)
    >> > success number.
    >>
    >> I'm sorry, but where is that rule written? I don't see it under the
    >"Rule"
    >> description.
    >
    >Nevermind, I found it. Apparently it was accidentally left out of the Rule
    >action description. I like the idea of adding the target province level as
    >modifier to the success roll for ruling provinces, do you think they meant
    >the same for holdings, too? That the new target holding level should be
    >added on as a modifier?


    Yes, this rule applies to all "rule" actions, with holdings or with
    provinces.
    As a general rule, if the "Success:" part of the action description has a
    "number plus" next to it, modifiers apply to the action in some way, shape
    or form.

    Memnoch

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  6. #16
    David Sean Brown
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    House Rule Dispute

    > Yes, this rule applies to all "rule" actions, with holdings or with
    > provinces.
    > As a general rule, if the "Success:" part of the action description has a
    > "number plus" next to it, modifiers apply to the action in some way, shape
    > or form.

    Hmm..don't know that it applies to holdings does it? I know its not
    stated, but you think its implied here?

    Sean

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  7. #17
    Memnoch
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    House Rule Dispute

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: David Sean Brown
    To: birthright@lists.imagiconline.com
    Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - House Rule Dispute


    >> Yes, this rule applies to all "rule" actions, with holdings or with
    >> provinces.
    >> As a general rule, if the "Success:" part of the action description has a
    >> "number plus" next to it, modifiers apply to the action in some way,
    shape
    >> or form.
    >
    >Hmm..don't know that it applies to holdings does it? I know its not
    >stated, but you think its implied here?
    >
    >Sean
    >


    Yes, I do. Both are "Rule" actions. So the target level of the holding
    would be a positive modifier to the success number. Although with holdings,
    if the holding regent had the support of the landed regent in which the
    holding is located, the province level is a negative (bonus) to the success
    number, reducing it by the level of the province.

    Memnoch

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  8. #18
    Jeremy Baker
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    House Rule Dispute

    >From: David Sean Brown
    >>> Yes, this rule applies to all "rule" actions, with holdings or with
    >>> provinces.
    >>> As a general rule, if the "Success:" part of the action description has
    a
    >>> "number plus" next to it, modifiers apply to the action in some way,
    >shape
    >>> or form.
    >>
    >>Hmm..don't know that it applies to holdings does it? I know its not
    >>stated, but you think its implied here?


    From: Memnoch

    >Yes, I do. Both are "Rule" actions. So the target level of the holding
    >would be a positive modifier to the success number.

    I too definitely agree with this interpretation, and cannot really
    see how it could be seen otherwise. Also "Birthright- The Gorgan's Alliance"
    computer game uses this interpretation, which may not be gospel, but I feel
    that in many aspects it is pretty close to being so as TSR certainly had
    input.

    Jeremy Baker
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