BR Gods(abridged)

[Alaric]

> > Ruornil: I really disagree with this god being a lesser God. I think
> > that Ruornil should have paladins and is probably the most active god in
> > the pantheon at combating the shadow world and the evil Gods. Plus how
> > can he do what he does and not have been wiped out long ago by Belenik
> > and Kriesha if he was a lesser God. Doesn't make sense. I could see
> > him take the Death Portfolio in the future.
>
> The death aspect could work here. IMC, Ruornil is a very active deity,
> but from behind the scenes. He is quite concerned about Cerilia, and
> believes there are duties that ALL of the gods should perform, in the
> interest of the world and the self-survival of the gods.
>

Yes, in my campaign too, Ruornil is the most active of the gods. One of
my characters (Mage) was designated the Champion of Ruornil at one point
in a huge conflict (I designed my own paladin rules, more similar to the
Chosen of Mystra thing in FR, but toned way the hell down). Also,
Ruornil has sent a Minion down to watch, guide, and protect the party
indirectly (in the guise of a priestly advisor).
Also, I know I brought this up elsewhere, but for being a god of magic,
I find Ruornil's sphere selection rather limited. I played a priest of
him in a campaign, and found myself missing spells that I considered
basic.

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[Hadricon@aol.co]

Ruornil is a lesser god because he has next to nil followers. Elves, the true
magical people of Cerilia have no gods. The Vos, Vorynn's orgional people,
have forsaken his worship. Most wizards don't worship him directly. That kind
of class isn't a big religous zelot kind of class. So that leaves priests,
accolytes,scattered sects and the people of Medeore. The main power of
Ruronil is in his action. His sects activly do his bidding. I believe that
this is what makes him week. He is very active in the way of things. The
other gods are aloof, yes even Kriesha and Belenik. They both guide their
followers as Haelyn, Curaciean,and other gods... while Ruronil is active in
fighting the shadow world. His powers are devoted to that, not power. This
battle is done out of sight, out of mind to all of cerilia and taht is how he
wants it.

As for a god of Death, I don't think the afterlife is important to the
Cerilians. They are more of a life oriented culture. This is logical when you
think about Scions. These beings have the blood of gods passed down... and
it doesn't even have to be from family member to family member... it can be
passed to a loyal servent, or a lucky peasent nearby if needs be. This
culture seems to be obsesed with the power struggle of life not death. The
"lifeblood" of the culture is these bloodlines, and they are an etherial
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[Ben]

Ruornil is a lesser god because he has next to nil followers. Elves, the
true
magical people of Cerilia have no gods. The Vos, Vorynn's orgional people,
have forsaken his worship. Most wizards don't worship him directly. That
kind
of class isn't a big religous zelot kind of class. So that leaves priests,
accolytes,scattered sects and the people of Medeore. The main power of
Ruronil is in his action. His sects activly do his bidding. I believe that
this is what makes him week. He is very active in the way of things. The
other gods are aloof, yes even Kriesha and Belenik. They both guide their
followers as Haelyn, Curaciean,and other gods... while Ruronil is active in
fighting the shadow world. His powers are devoted to that, not power. This
battle is done out of sight, out of mind to all of cerilia and taht is how
he
wants it.



> Yes, in my campaign too, Ruornil is the most active of the gods. One of
> my characters (Mage) was designated the Champion of Ruornil at one point
> in a huge conflict (I designed my own paladin rules, more similar to the
> Chosen of Mystra thing in FR, but toned way the hell down). Also,
> Ruornil has sent a Minion down to watch, guide, and protect the party
> indirectly (in the guise of a priestly advisor).
> Also, I know I brought this up elsewhere, but for being a god of magic,
> I find Ruornil's sphere selection rather limited. I played a priest of
> him in a campaign, and found myself missing spells that I considered
> basic.

I think Ruornil's priesthood is a very overlooked part of this game. If
you think about it, the god doesn't need anything else to add to his
spheres. A blooded priest of Ruornil can become a VERY powerful being in
Cerilia. He can cast priest magic and wizard magic and control sources as
well as temples. Just think what Luther Helmsen could do if he were about
15th level. Makes me wonder why the power-loving Vos would forsake him...


Ben


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[Alaric]

> I think Ruornil's priesthood is a very overlooked part of this game. If
> you think about it, the god doesn't need anything else to add to his
> spheres. A blooded priest of Ruornil can become a VERY powerful being in
> Cerilia. He can cast priest magic and wizard magic and control sources as
> well as temples. Just think what Luther Helmsen could do if he were about
> 15th level. Makes me wonder why the power-loving Vos would forsake him...
>
> Ben
>
>
Remember, though, that even a blooded priest of Ruornil doesn't get
anything special. They are left with Magician magic, and can't get
regency from controlling Source. Believe me, while Magician magic is
useful at half the level, it is certainly anything but raw power.
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[Pieter Sleijpen]

Alaric wrote:
>
> > > Ruornil: I really disagree with this god being a lesser God. I think
> > > that Ruornil should have paladins and is probably the most active god in
> > > the pantheon at combating the shadow world and the evil Gods. Plus how
> > > can he do what he does and not have been wiped out long ago by Belenik
> > > and Kriesha if he was a lesser God. Doesn't make sense. I could see
> > > him take the Death Portfolio in the future.
> >
> > The death aspect could work here. IMC, Ruornil is a very active deity,
> > but from behind the scenes. He is quite concerned about Cerilia, and
> > believes there are duties that ALL of the gods should perform, in the
> > interest of the world and the self-survival of the gods.
> >
>

Well, Rilni already has got a very active roll in the lands of the
Khinasi. He is the one that bounds true wizards to the 5 Oaths of
Service and his high priest has got actually the right to declare
wizards renegades. This gives him quite some leeway in political
landscape of Khinasi. But besides that he keeps quite, silently
manipulating people into doing things. He is also the patron of the
diviner magicians. My PC's actually met his avatar once, when they were
trying to seal a breech with the Shadow World, though they still do not
know that. Anyway, since one of the PC's was resurrected recently by the
temple of Rilni, they are getting more and more bound into the service
of this temple.

Nobody, except a select few, now about this temples involvement in a
semi-secret organisation that officially falls under the guidance of
Avani. This organisation is charged with tracking down undead, breeches
with the Shadow World and the horrors of the past (the ones responsible
for the destruction of the Masatians). They also involve themselves in
hunting down renegade wizards. You could compare this organisation to
the Harpers of the FR, with the difference that they are not really
interested in politics.

As for alignment, I still see it as neutral. He does not really care
about good or evil. His character is very similar to that of a druid and
as every druid he will try to protect balance. Balance is clearly broken
in the direction of the Shadow World, so he works actively against it.

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