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    BR Gods(abridged)

    > > Ruornil: I really disagree with this god being a lesser God. I think
    > > that Ruornil should have paladins and is probably the most active god in
    > > the pantheon at combating the shadow world and the evil Gods. Plus how
    > > can he do what he does and not have been wiped out long ago by Belenik
    > > and Kriesha if he was a lesser God. Doesn't make sense. I could see
    > > him take the Death Portfolio in the future.
    >
    > The death aspect could work here. IMC, Ruornil is a very active deity,
    > but from behind the scenes. He is quite concerned about Cerilia, and
    > believes there are duties that ALL of the gods should perform, in the
    > interest of the world and the self-survival of the gods.
    >

    Yes, in my campaign too, Ruornil is the most active of the gods. One of
    my characters (Mage) was designated the Champion of Ruornil at one point
    in a huge conflict (I designed my own paladin rules, more similar to the
    Chosen of Mystra thing in FR, but toned way the hell down). Also,
    Ruornil has sent a Minion down to watch, guide, and protect the party
    indirectly (in the guise of a priestly advisor).
    Also, I know I brought this up elsewhere, but for being a god of magic,
    I find Ruornil's sphere selection rather limited. I played a priest of
    him in a campaign, and found myself missing spells that I considered
    basic.

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    Hadricon@aol.co
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    BR Gods(abridged)

    Ruornil is a lesser god because he has next to nil followers. Elves, the true
    magical people of Cerilia have no gods. The Vos, Vorynn's orgional people,
    have forsaken his worship. Most wizards don't worship him directly. That kind
    of class isn't a big religous zelot kind of class. So that leaves priests,
    accolytes,scattered sects and the people of Medeore. The main power of
    Ruronil is in his action. His sects activly do his bidding. I believe that
    this is what makes him week. He is very active in the way of things. The
    other gods are aloof, yes even Kriesha and Belenik. They both guide their
    followers as Haelyn, Curaciean,and other gods... while Ruronil is active in
    fighting the shadow world. His powers are devoted to that, not power. This
    battle is done out of sight, out of mind to all of cerilia and taht is how he
    wants it.

    As for a god of Death, I don't think the afterlife is important to the
    Cerilians. They are more of a life oriented culture. This is logical when you
    think about Scions. These beings have the blood of gods passed down... and
    it doesn't even have to be from family member to family member... it can be
    passed to a loyal servent, or a lucky peasent nearby if needs be. This
    culture seems to be obsesed with the power struggle of life not death. The
    "lifeblood" of the culture is these bloodlines, and they are an etherial
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    Ben
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    BR Gods(abridged)

    Ruornil is a lesser god because he has next to nil followers. Elves, the
    true
    magical people of Cerilia have no gods. The Vos, Vorynn's orgional people,
    have forsaken his worship. Most wizards don't worship him directly. That
    kind
    of class isn't a big religous zelot kind of class. So that leaves priests,
    accolytes,scattered sects and the people of Medeore. The main power of
    Ruronil is in his action. His sects activly do his bidding. I believe that
    this is what makes him week. He is very active in the way of things. The
    other gods are aloof, yes even Kriesha and Belenik. They both guide their
    followers as Haelyn, Curaciean,and other gods... while Ruronil is active in
    fighting the shadow world. His powers are devoted to that, not power. This
    battle is done out of sight, out of mind to all of cerilia and taht is how
    he
    wants it.



    > Yes, in my campaign too, Ruornil is the most active of the gods. One of
    > my characters (Mage) was designated the Champion of Ruornil at one point
    > in a huge conflict (I designed my own paladin rules, more similar to the
    > Chosen of Mystra thing in FR, but toned way the hell down). Also,
    > Ruornil has sent a Minion down to watch, guide, and protect the party
    > indirectly (in the guise of a priestly advisor).
    > Also, I know I brought this up elsewhere, but for being a god of magic,
    > I find Ruornil's sphere selection rather limited. I played a priest of
    > him in a campaign, and found myself missing spells that I considered
    > basic.

    I think Ruornil's priesthood is a very overlooked part of this game. If
    you think about it, the god doesn't need anything else to add to his
    spheres. A blooded priest of Ruornil can become a VERY powerful being in
    Cerilia. He can cast priest magic and wizard magic and control sources as
    well as temples. Just think what Luther Helmsen could do if he were about
    15th level. Makes me wonder why the power-loving Vos would forsake him...


    Ben


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    BR Gods(abridged)

    > I think Ruornil's priesthood is a very overlooked part of this game. If
    > you think about it, the god doesn't need anything else to add to his
    > spheres. A blooded priest of Ruornil can become a VERY powerful being in
    > Cerilia. He can cast priest magic and wizard magic and control sources as
    > well as temples. Just think what Luther Helmsen could do if he were about
    > 15th level. Makes me wonder why the power-loving Vos would forsake him...
    >
    > Ben
    >
    >
    Remember, though, that even a blooded priest of Ruornil doesn't get
    anything special. They are left with Magician magic, and can't get
    regency from controlling Source. Believe me, while Magician magic is
    useful at half the level, it is certainly anything but raw power.
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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Alaric wrote:
    >
    > > > Ruornil: I really disagree with this god being a lesser God. I think
    > > > that Ruornil should have paladins and is probably the most active god in
    > > > the pantheon at combating the shadow world and the evil Gods. Plus how
    > > > can he do what he does and not have been wiped out long ago by Belenik
    > > > and Kriesha if he was a lesser God. Doesn't make sense. I could see
    > > > him take the Death Portfolio in the future.
    > >
    > > The death aspect could work here. IMC, Ruornil is a very active deity,
    > > but from behind the scenes. He is quite concerned about Cerilia, and
    > > believes there are duties that ALL of the gods should perform, in the
    > > interest of the world and the self-survival of the gods.
    > >
    >

    Well, Rilni already has got a very active roll in the lands of the
    Khinasi. He is the one that bounds true wizards to the 5 Oaths of
    Service and his high priest has got actually the right to declare
    wizards renegades. This gives him quite some leeway in political
    landscape of Khinasi. But besides that he keeps quite, silently
    manipulating people into doing things. He is also the patron of the
    diviner magicians. My PC's actually met his avatar once, when they were
    trying to seal a breech with the Shadow World, though they still do not
    know that. Anyway, since one of the PC's was resurrected recently by the
    temple of Rilni, they are getting more and more bound into the service
    of this temple.

    Nobody, except a select few, now about this temples involvement in a
    semi-secret organisation that officially falls under the guidance of
    Avani. This organisation is charged with tracking down undead, breeches
    with the Shadow World and the horrors of the past (the ones responsible
    for the destruction of the Masatians). They also involve themselves in
    hunting down renegade wizards. You could compare this organisation to
    the Harpers of the FR, with the difference that they are not really
    interested in politics.

    As for alignment, I still see it as neutral. He does not really care
    about good or evil. His character is very similar to that of a druid and
    as every druid he will try to protect balance. Balance is clearly broken
    in the direction of the Shadow World, so he works actively against it.

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