New class?

[Alaric]

A thought I had a while back was this: Various things were imbued with
the Gods' bloodlines when they first went Kaboom at Deismaar; people
(some of who became Gods), animals (some of the ehrshegh and awnshegh),
rocks (the sielshegh gems), and even the land itself (as is evidenced by
things such as The Land's Choice for investiture, and the nature of
regency). Here's my suggestion: it seems the only thing that is required
on BR for granting spells or having priests is desire and bloodline
strength (shown by certain Awn- and Ehrshegh having priests). So why,
with enough worshippers, couldn't the land grant spells and powers as a
god?
Because the land has the blood of all of the gods in it, each individual
priest would have a slightly different view of everything, and therefore
different powers. Some would be tainted by Azrai, and possibly
eventually become an Awnshegh, or have strong ties to the other
religions, and possibly eventually become an Ehrshegh.
The ethos, I think, would be similar to a druid, but more devoted to the
nature of the bloodline. I don't know exactly what the specifics on
worship would be, probably something to do with a Neutral nature and a
desire to maintain the status quo, to support people who best maintain
the power given to them by their bloodlines and such. Also, I would
think that maybe some faith-specific spells could be developed that have
to do with controlling bloodlines (similar to the ones in priestcraft
and magecraft, maybe easier or more powerful). Well, here's what I've
got so far, tell me if I'm way off base or if I may actually have
something. I have included powers up to 24th level for the sake of
completeness, not because I expect to see them used (just like in High
Level Campaigns).

Priest of Cerilia
Requirements: Wis 12, Con 12, Int 12
Weapons: Standard Priest
Armor: Chain and lighter
Magical Items: As priest
Clergy Align: NG, LN, N, CN, NE
Sphere access
Major: All, Charm, Combat, Creation, Guardian, Healing, Protection,
Summoning, Travelers, Wards, Weather
Minor: Animal, Plant, Elemental Earth, Necromantic
Abilities:
Turn Undead
Identify Plants/Animals by sight
Stone Tell 2/Week
Powers:
1st level: Bloodline Strength is 3d6, roll or choose one derivation to
suit the character
3rd level: +d6 to BS, add another derivation randomly
6th level: +d8 to BS, add another derivation randomly
9th level: +d10 to BS, add another derivation randomly
12th level: +d12 to BS, add another derivation randomly
15th level: +2d8 to BS, to BS, add another derivation randomly
18th level: Gain Bloodform or Bloodtrait at the Minor level
21st level: Bloodform or trait raises to Major
24th level: Bloodform or trait raises to Great

Restrictions: Priests may not begin with a bloodline, and may not gain
bloodline through bloodtheft. Indeed, wasting the lifeblood of a regent
in this manner is forbidden by the religion.

Optional: The returning of a bloodline of another to the land (in a
ritual similar to the one that Roele used, except with a sacrificial
flavor) may be within the boundaries of the land, and may be rewarded by
temporary or permanent benefits under circumsances…of course, this is a
more bloodthirsty view of the religion, probably only seen by the CN and
NE members (those with a greater degree of Azrai's blood).

Any suggestions or questions?
Thx,
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[Jeremy Baker]

Alaric wrote,
So why,
>with enough worshippers, couldn't the land grant spells and powers as a
>god?


Interesting idea, I like the premise.

>Priest of Cerilia
>Requirements: Wis 12, Con 12, Int 12
>Weapons: Standard Priest
>Armor: Chain and lighter
>Magical Items: As priest
>Clergy Align: NG, LN, N, CN, NE
>Sphere access
>Major: All, Charm, Combat, Creation, Guardian, Healing, Protection,
>Summoning, Travelers, Wards, Weather
>Minor: Animal, Plant, Elemental Earth, Necromantic


This is a huge number of spheres to offer compared to all the other gods
of Cerilia. The majority of powers offer a total of TEN spheres, usually
divided as SEVEN Major and THREE minor. The only power to offer more is
Ruornil who gives NINE Major and THREE Minor. Hence I feel eleven and four
is a bit much.

>Because the land has the blood of all of the gods in it, each individual
>priest would have a slightly different view of everything, and therefore
>different powers.

This aspect is an obvious way of toning down the granted spheres, by
having different derivation provide diferent spheres.

>Abilities:
>Turn Undead
>Identify Plants/Animals by sight
>Stone Tell 2/Week

Again this is a sizable number of abilities at first level by
comparision, although they are a good choice for a land priest

>Powers:
>1st level: Bloodline Strength is 3d6, roll or choose one derivation to
>suit the character
>3rd level: +d6 to BS, add another derivation randomly
>6th level: +d8 to BS, add another derivation randomly
>9th level: +d10 to BS, add another derivation randomly
>12th level: +d12 to BS, add another derivation randomly
>15th level: +2d8 to BS, to BS, add another derivation randomly
>18th level: Gain Bloodform or Bloodtrait at the Minor level
>21st level: Bloodform or trait raises to Major
>24th level: Bloodform or trait raises to Great

Getting such regular and sizable increases in Bloodline will lead to
getting lots of blood abilities of a progressivly higher power. Especially
as the restriction below still allows for increasing BS through regency.

>Restrictions: Priests may not begin with a bloodline, and may not gain
>bloodline through bloodtheft. Indeed, wasting the lifeblood of a regent
>in this manner is forbidden by the religion.
>
>Optional: The returning of a bloodline of another to the land (in a
>ritual similar to the one that Roele used, except with a sacrificial
>flavor) may be within the boundaries of the land, and may be rewarded by
>temporary or permanent benefits under circumsances…of course, this is a
>more bloodthirsty view of the religion, probably only seen by the CN and
>NE members (those with a greater degree of Azrai's blood).


Generally I like the idea, (if you want to add more powers to your
campaign.) However, as it is currently written, if I were a Munchkin I would
grasp this class with both arms and hold on tight.
Just my first impressions,
Jeremy.

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[Alaric]

Jeremy Baker wrote:
>

>
> This is a huge number of spheres to offer compared to all the other gods
> of Cerilia. The majority of powers offer a total of TEN spheres, usually
> divided as SEVEN Major and THREE minor. The only power to offer more is
> Ruornil who gives NINE Major and THREE Minor. Hence I feel eleven and four
> is a bit much.
>
The intent here was to give a priesthood that was more similar to the
cleric than to the priests of birthright. FR priests (yes, I know, bad
comparison, but it is leading to something) occasionally get up to 20 or
more major spheres, so on an absolute level, it's not absurd for just
that. As for being on Cerilia, most priesthoods get some pretty
incredible powers, which I'm taking away from these guys.


>
> This aspect is an obvious way of toning down the granted spheres, by
> having different derivation provide diferent spheres.
>

Yes, and people that feel that this is too powerful of a class can take
spheres away and grant additional powers for a more 'Birthright'
oriented priest.

> >Abilities:
> >Turn Undead
> >Identify Plants/Animals by sight
> >Stone Tell 2/Week
>
> Again this is a sizable number of abilities at first level by
> comparision, although they are a good choice for a land priest
>
Actually, those powers are pretty weak. The priest doesn't get
followers, they're restricted in armor, and obviously can't get
sanctioned to establish a stronghold (tho there's no reason he couldn't
do it himself). Your point, though, is taken. Delay the identify
plants/animals ability to 5th level, that gives him one power and TU.


> >Powers:
> >1st level: Bloodline Strength is 3d6, roll or choose one derivation to
> >suit the character
> >3rd level: +d6 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> >6th level: +d8 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> >9th level: +d10 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> >12th level: +d12 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> >15th level: +2d8 to BS, to BS, add another derivation randomly
> >18th level: Gain Bloodform or Bloodtrait at the Minor level
> >21st level: Bloodform or trait raises to Major
> >24th level: Bloodform or trait raises to Great
>
> Getting such regular and sizable increases in Bloodline will lead to
> getting lots of blood abilities of a progressivly higher power. Especially
> as the restriction below still allows for increasing BS through regency.
>
D'oh, I'm sorry. I intended to suggest that this priest be forbidden to
have holdings, especially as there are none that would work here (a
priesthood? There's like 2 of 'em). I don't see the increases as all
that sizeable...by 15th level the character could conceivably have a 64
BS, something that's possible (and has almost happened) for first level
characters. That's at absolute max, as I never intended for the
character to have another avenue for increase other than incredible
divine favor (and from the land?). The other aspect is that on average
the character will have about a 39-40 at 15th level, which isn't all
that incredible, in my opinion. If my class was devoted to only
increasing bloodline, I think I'd probably have a higher. Heck,
professional bloodthieves (successful ones, not the ones that show up on
a blood challenge random event) probably gain more BS than this guy.
Recall, 15th level isn't exactly easy to get to.


> >Restrictions: Priests may not begin with a bloodline, and may not gain
> >bloodline through bloodtheft. Indeed, wasting the lifeblood of a regent
> >in this manner is forbidden by the religion.
> >
> >Optional: The returning of a bloodline of another to the land (in a
> >ritual similar to the one that Roele used, except with a sacrificial
> >flavor) may be within the boundaries of the land, and may be rewarded by
> >temporary or permanent benefits under circumsances…of course, this is a
> >more bloodthirsty view of the religion, probably only seen by the CN and
> >NE members (those with a greater degree of Azrai's blood).
>
> Generally I like the idea, (if you want to add more powers to your
> campaign.) However, as it is currently written, if I were a Munchkin I would
> grasp this class with both arms and hold on tight.
> Just my first impressions,
> Jeremy.
>
That was my first worry, although I've never seen bloodline (the only
real benefit of this class) as something insanely powerful. The
abilities are limited, and I find them something that I can sort of
throw around quite easily without much worry. I see the character as
essentially the only spellcasting priest (as opposed to Powers priest)
within the BR system. All the other priests have a very limited
selection of spells, followed by some powers which are either impressive
(haelyn, sera) or incredible (cuireacen, belinik). Remember, giving a
priest a large set of spells available doesn't mean he gets to cast
more. Also, I carefully avoided giving the character any spheres which
are horribly disruptive (Nec Major, Time, Thought, Numbers, Astral
Major). The number is also to account for that fact. Thanks for your
input tho.
Thx,
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[Olesens]

Due to the nature of the class, perhaps it would be a good idea to allow it to
elves.

Alaric wrote:

> A thought I had a while back was this: Various things were imbued with
> the Gods' bloodlines when they first went Kaboom at Deismaar; people
> (some of who became Gods), animals (some of the ehrshegh and awnshegh),
> rocks (the sielshegh gems), and even the land itself (as is evidenced by
> things such as The Land's Choice for investiture, and the nature of
> regency). Here's my suggestion: it seems the only thing that is required
> on BR for granting spells or having priests is desire and bloodline
> strength (shown by certain Awn- and Ehrshegh having priests). So why,
> with enough worshippers, couldn't the land grant spells and powers as a
> god?
> Because the land has the blood of all of the gods in it, each individual
> priest would have a slightly different view of everything, and therefore
> different powers. Some would be tainted by Azrai, and possibly
> eventually become an Awnshegh, or have strong ties to the other
> religions, and possibly eventually become an Ehrshegh.
> The ethos, I think, would be similar to a druid, but more devoted to the
> nature of the bloodline. I don't know exactly what the specifics on
> worship would be, probably something to do with a Neutral nature and a
> desire to maintain the status quo, to support people who best maintain
> the power given to them by their bloodlines and such. Also, I would
> think that maybe some faith-specific spells could be developed that have
> to do with controlling bloodlines (similar to the ones in priestcraft
> and magecraft, maybe easier or more powerful). Well, here's what I've
> got so far, tell me if I'm way off base or if I may actually have
> something. I have included powers up to 24th level for the sake of
> completeness, not because I expect to see them used (just like in High
> Level Campaigns).
>
> Priest of Cerilia
> Requirements: Wis 12, Con 12, Int 12
> Weapons: Standard Priest
> Armor: Chain and lighter
> Magical Items: As priest
> Clergy Align: NG, LN, N, CN, NE
> Sphere access
> Major: All, Charm, Combat, Creation, Guardian, Healing, Protection,
> Summoning, Travelers, Wards, Weather
> Minor: Animal, Plant, Elemental Earth, Necromantic
> Abilities:
> Turn Undead
> Identify Plants/Animals by sight
> Stone Tell 2/Week
> Powers:
> 1st level: Bloodline Strength is 3d6, roll or choose one derivation to
> suit the character
> 3rd level: +d6 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> 6th level: +d8 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> 9th level: +d10 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> 12th level: +d12 to BS, add another derivation randomly
> 15th level: +2d8 to BS, to BS, add another derivation randomly
> 18th level: Gain Bloodform or Bloodtrait at the Minor level
> 21st level: Bloodform or trait raises to Major
> 24th level: Bloodform or trait raises to Great
>
> Restrictions: Priests may not begin with a bloodline, and may not gain
> bloodline through bloodtheft. Indeed, wasting the lifeblood of a regent
> in this manner is forbidden by the religion.
>
> Optional: The returning of a bloodline of another to the land (in a
> ritual similar to the one that Roele used, except with a sacrificial
> flavor) may be within the boundaries of the land, and may be rewarded by
> temporary or permanent benefits under circumsances…of course, this is a
> more bloodthirsty view of the religion, probably only seen by the CN and
> NE members (those with a greater degree of Azrai's blood).
>
> Any suggestions or questions?
> Thx,
> Alaric
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