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05-01-1999, 06:25 AM #1GuestGuest
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When the Birthright line was cancelled in mid-stride, what happened to the
hardcover that was promised? The book was about a Queen on another continent
I believe - I can imagine the author being a little peeved that their work
remains unpublished. On the same note didn't Rich Baker also have a
paperback due? I was looking forward to reading this as he was one of the
lead designers.
With the long lead times in publishing, was both these novels finshed and
only waiting on printing?
Scott Stoyanovich
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05-01-1999, 01:52 PM #2Ian HoskinsGuest
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s wrote:
>
> When the Birthright line was cancelled in mid-stride, what happened to the
> hardcover that was promised? The book was about a Queen on another continent
> I believe - I can imagine the author being a little peeved that their work
> remains unpublished. On the same note didn't Rich Baker also have a
> paperback due? I was looking forward to reading this as he was one of the
> lead designers.
> With the long lead times in publishing, was both these novels finshed and
> only waiting on printing?
Rich Baker's novel was published, but as a Forgotten Realms novel called
"The Shadow Stone." It is still a birthright novel at heart though, and
it gives some good insights into Elven magic as well as the Royal
College of Sorcery, not to mention a bit on the shadow world. All you
need to do is swap a few names around and it could still be set in
Cerilia. That's what I did when I read it.
Everything else has been cancelled though.
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Is the 'Shadow Stone' the original novel that Rich Baker wrote (If I have my
trivia right) that was the basic foundation for the game setting? I recall
reading in the introduction that the had pulled out his 'great American novel' and
turned into the greatest RPG setting of all time.
If not, would that original writing be property of TSR (and thus shelved), or
would it still be publishable under a different publishing house? :::crosses
fingers:::
On another note, has anyone read Katherine Kerr's "Deverry' (SP?) series of
novels? I read the first one, and it is fairly close to Cerilia (at least in my
mind) in flavour and nature. With a little alteration, there are some wonderful
ideas and concepts in them that would make fine expansions on Cerilia.
Morg
Ian Hoskins wrote:
> Rich Baker's novel was published, but as a Forgotten Realms novel called
> "The Shadow Stone." It is still a birthright novel at heart though, and
> it gives some good insights into Elven magic as well as the Royal
> College of Sorcery, not to mention a bit on the shadow world. All you
> need to do is swap a few names around and it could still be set in
> Cerilia. That's what I did when I read it.
> Everything else has been cancelled though.
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> Ian Hoskins
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> e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
> Homepage: http://www.chariot.net.au/~hoss
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> ICQ: 2938300 AIM: IHoskins
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05-01-1999, 07:00 PM #4Mark A VandermeulenGuest
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On Sat, 1 May 1999, Morg wrote:
> Is the 'Shadow Stone' the original novel that Rich Baker wrote (If I have my
> trivia right) that was the basic foundation for the game setting? I recall
> reading in the introduction that the had pulled out his 'great American novel' and
> turned into the greatest RPG setting of all time.
Actually, if I remember correctly, Rich Baker told us that he pulled that
novel out of the shoe box he had stored it in, read through it for a
while, and decided that he wasn't too surprized that no one wanted to
publish it. So he wrote a different story that became the "Shadow Stone."
But once again this is coming from an imperfect memory.
> On another note, has anyone read Katherine Kerr's "Deverry' (SP?) series of
> novels? I read the first one, and it is fairly close to Cerilia (at
least in my
> mind) in flavour and nature. With a little alteration, there are some
wonderful
> ideas and concepts in them that would make fine expansions on Cerilia.
Actually, Kerr's Deverry books are some of my favorite fantasy literature
of all time, and the political system I use for the Anuireans relies
heavily on those books. I've translated Tieryns into Barons or Counts and
Gwerbrets into Dukes or Princes/Kings, and added what I would imagine to
be a couple hundred or so years of political advancement, and viola! the
Anuirean feudal system. I rule that it is still the responsibility of the
Lord to provide a certain number of fighting men for his lord's army for a
certain amount of time, as in those books, but that these are starting to
be replaced by a permanent centralized military. Thus, no regent can
muster more units of knights than he has provinces with a rating of 2 or
more. In addition, I've applied penalties to Units undergoing War Moves
during the Winter months, but ruled that regents don't have to pay upkeep
on infantry or knight units during those months (they go back home and
come back in the spring). Other units represent the new centralized
military, and must be maintained year around by the regent. This doesn't
quite match Deverry, since most Deverry warriors are cavalry, but it fits
Anuire better this way, I think, but if I were to play in Coeranys I might
apply the "free winter maintenance" rule to cavalry, rather than to
knights and infantry.
I love the Deverry books. Read them all. I'd rather meet Nevyn than
Gandalf any day.
Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu
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