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  1. #1
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    1998 product list

    When the Birthright line was cancelled in mid-stride, what happened to the
    hardcover that was promised? The book was about a Queen on another continent
    I believe - I can imagine the author being a little peeved that their work
    remains unpublished. On the same note didn't Rich Baker also have a
    paperback due? I was looking forward to reading this as he was one of the
    lead designers.
    With the long lead times in publishing, was both these novels finshed and
    only waiting on printing?

    Scott Stoyanovich

  2. #2
    Ian Hoskins
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    1998 product list

    s wrote:
    >
    > When the Birthright line was cancelled in mid-stride, what happened to the
    > hardcover that was promised? The book was about a Queen on another continent
    > I believe - I can imagine the author being a little peeved that their work
    > remains unpublished. On the same note didn't Rich Baker also have a
    > paperback due? I was looking forward to reading this as he was one of the
    > lead designers.
    > With the long lead times in publishing, was both these novels finshed and
    > only waiting on printing?

    Rich Baker's novel was published, but as a Forgotten Realms novel called
    "The Shadow Stone." It is still a birthright novel at heart though, and
    it gives some good insights into Elven magic as well as the Royal
    College of Sorcery, not to mention a bit on the shadow world. All you
    need to do is swap a few names around and it could still be set in
    Cerilia. That's what I did when I read it.
    Everything else has been cancelled though.
    - --
    Ian Hoskins

    e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
    Homepage: http://www.chariot.net.au/~hoss

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    1998 product list

    Is the 'Shadow Stone' the original novel that Rich Baker wrote (If I have my
    trivia right) that was the basic foundation for the game setting? I recall
    reading in the introduction that the had pulled out his 'great American novel' and
    turned into the greatest RPG setting of all time.

    If not, would that original writing be property of TSR (and thus shelved), or
    would it still be publishable under a different publishing house? :::crosses
    fingers:::

    On another note, has anyone read Katherine Kerr's "Deverry' (SP?) series of
    novels? I read the first one, and it is fairly close to Cerilia (at least in my
    mind) in flavour and nature. With a little alteration, there are some wonderful
    ideas and concepts in them that would make fine expansions on Cerilia.

    Morg

    Ian Hoskins wrote:

    > Rich Baker's novel was published, but as a Forgotten Realms novel called
    > "The Shadow Stone." It is still a birthright novel at heart though, and
    > it gives some good insights into Elven magic as well as the Royal
    > College of Sorcery, not to mention a bit on the shadow world. All you
    > need to do is swap a few names around and it could still be set in
    > Cerilia. That's what I did when I read it.
    > Everything else has been cancelled though.
    > --
    > Ian Hoskins
    >
    > e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
    > Homepage: http://www.chariot.net.au/~hoss
    >
    > ICQ: 2938300 AIM: IHoskins
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  4. #4
    Mark A Vandermeulen
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    1998 product list

    On Sat, 1 May 1999, Morg wrote:

    > Is the 'Shadow Stone' the original novel that Rich Baker wrote (If I have my
    > trivia right) that was the basic foundation for the game setting? I recall
    > reading in the introduction that the had pulled out his 'great American novel' and
    > turned into the greatest RPG setting of all time.

    Actually, if I remember correctly, Rich Baker told us that he pulled that
    novel out of the shoe box he had stored it in, read through it for a
    while, and decided that he wasn't too surprized that no one wanted to
    publish it. So he wrote a different story that became the "Shadow Stone."
    But once again this is coming from an imperfect memory.

    > On another note, has anyone read Katherine Kerr's "Deverry' (SP?) series of
    > novels? I read the first one, and it is fairly close to Cerilia (at
    least in my
    > mind) in flavour and nature. With a little alteration, there are some
    wonderful
    > ideas and concepts in them that would make fine expansions on Cerilia.

    Actually, Kerr's Deverry books are some of my favorite fantasy literature
    of all time, and the political system I use for the Anuireans relies
    heavily on those books. I've translated Tieryns into Barons or Counts and
    Gwerbrets into Dukes or Princes/Kings, and added what I would imagine to
    be a couple hundred or so years of political advancement, and viola! the
    Anuirean feudal system. I rule that it is still the responsibility of the
    Lord to provide a certain number of fighting men for his lord's army for a
    certain amount of time, as in those books, but that these are starting to
    be replaced by a permanent centralized military. Thus, no regent can
    muster more units of knights than he has provinces with a rating of 2 or
    more. In addition, I've applied penalties to Units undergoing War Moves
    during the Winter months, but ruled that regents don't have to pay upkeep
    on infantry or knight units during those months (they go back home and
    come back in the spring). Other units represent the new centralized
    military, and must be maintained year around by the regent. This doesn't
    quite match Deverry, since most Deverry warriors are cavalry, but it fits
    Anuire better this way, I think, but if I were to play in Coeranys I might
    apply the "free winter maintenance" rule to cavalry, rather than to
    knights and infantry.

    I love the Deverry books. Read them all. I'd rather meet Nevyn than
    Gandalf any day.

    Mark VanderMeulen
    vander+@pitt.edu

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