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JulesMrshn@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/17/99 10:15:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
> matroy@abacom.com writes:
>
> >>
>
> Already have. I tricked him into stealing the cursed gold of a local priate
> horde. Of course I did not find the horde, the 5 to 10ths did (I was one of
> them until my charcter died touching the gold, which is how we found out it
> was cursed) but it was my Bard who finegled the dragon into getting the
> treasure. I lead him to the gold, he was killed and his treasure, after
> overcoming its traps, was ours. Of course the DM was fuming that his dragon
> ultra villian was so easily vanquished.
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Not to point out anything too obvious, but if the dragon was half as smart as
your character, and in general, powerful dragons are far smarter (that's what
makes them powerful enemies, that they're better, faster, and smarter than you),
than he never would have fallen for the trick. His human pawns would have found
the treasure (maybe), and the dragon probably would have smelled a trap from a
mile away. Then again, maybe it would have worked. BUT, I doubt that he could
have been killed by brute force from anyone, and therefore the point still stands
that what a weakly endowed character can do, a more 'gifted' one has the ability
to do at least as well (if one of those 5th to 10th's you mentioned had survived,
he could have done away with BigNasty in the same way).
Thx,
Alaric

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JulesMrshn@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/17/99 10:15:24 PM Central Daylight
Time,
matroy@abacom.com writes:
<< Next time you manage to kill a dragon with a 1st-level character,
tell me.
  >>
Already have.  I tricked him into stealing the cursed gold of a
local priate
horde.  Of course I did not find the horde, the 5 to 10ths did
(I was one of
them until my charcter died touching the gold, which is how we found
out it
was cursed) but it was my Bard who finegled the dragon into getting
the
treasure.  I lead him to the gold, he was killed and his treasure,
after
overcoming its traps, was ours. Of course the DM was fuming that his
dragon
ultra villian was so easily vanquished.
************************************************** *************************

Not to point out anything too obvious, but if the dragon was half
as smart as your character, and in general, powerful dragons are far smarter
(that's what makes them powerful enemies, that they're better, faster,
and smarter than you), than he never would have fallen for the trick.
His human pawns would have found the treasure (maybe), and the dragon probably
would have smelled a trap from a mile away. Then again, maybe it would
have worked. BUT, I doubt that he could have been killed by brute force
from anyone, and therefore the point still stands that what a weakly endowed
character can do, a more 'gifted' one has the ability to do at least as
well (if one of those 5th to 10th's you mentioned had survived, he could
have done away with BigNasty in the same way).
Thx,
   Alaric

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