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  1. #1
    Jim Cooper
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    Solmyr of the Azure Star wrote of The Serpent:
    >
    > >How about the Serpent?
    > > Well, some say he is a demigod (and those "some" happen to include me, which means bad news<

    Oh yeah, baby! :D He's already a demigod IMC as well!

    Indeed, this is the focus OMC - that being blooded is much more than
    just having fancy powers and women who will lay themselves at your feet,
    no questions asked! :) Being blooded means one has the potential to
    become a god(dess), just like the champions at Deismaar did.

    And, IMC, The Serpent just found out how to complete the transformation
    to Lesser Status ...

    MWUHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!

    Unfortunately for Mr. Hisser, Old Rockbutt's agents have discovered this
    little secret of The Serpent; unfortunately for Stony Brain, The Serpent
    knows that he knows that he knows. And when it comes to absolute
    cunning and deception, *nobody* beats The Serpent. The Sphinx is the
    only other blooded who knows of this secret, but he is being conned by
    the Serpent too.

    MWHUAHAHAAAAA!!!

    Unfortunately for both of them, Azrai knows what the three of them are
    up too ...

    And He is NOT amused. :D

    Cheers,
    Darren

  2. #2
    joe baker
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    >Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:49:54 -0800
    >From: Jim Cooper
    >To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    >Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - And what's behind Awnshegh #3?
    >Reply-To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    >
    >Solmyr of the Azure Star wrote of The Serpent:
    >>
    >> >How about the Serpent?
    >> > Well, some say he is a demigod (and those "some" happen to include
    me, which means bad news<
    >
    >Oh yeah, baby! :D He's already a demigod IMC as well!
    >
    >Indeed, this is the focus OMC - that being blooded is much more than
    >just having fancy powers and women who will lay themselves at your
    feet,
    >no questions asked! :) Being blooded means one has the potential to
    >become a god(dess), just like the champions at Deismaar did.
    >
    >And, IMC, The Serpent just found out how to complete the transformation
    >to Lesser Status ...
    >
    >MWUHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!
    >
    >Unfortunately for Mr. Hisser, Old Rockbutt's agents have discovered
    this
    >little secret of The Serpent; unfortunately for Stony Brain, The
    Serpent
    >knows that he knows that he knows. And when it comes to absolute
    >cunning and deception, *nobody* beats The Serpent. The Sphinx is the
    >only other blooded who knows of this secret, but he is being conned by
    >the Serpent too.
    >
    >MWHUAHAHAAAAA!!!
    >
    >Unfortunately for both of them, Azrai knows what the three of them are
    >up too ...
    >
    >And He is NOT amused. :D
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Darren

    But if the serpent is really a demi-god that would violate the pact that
    the new gods made never to be in physical form again, I think if he
    really where a demi-god the other gods would force him off the plane.

    Wolf
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  3. #3
    Jim Cooper
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    joe baker wrote:
    > But if the serpent is really a demi-god that would violate the pact that the new gods made never to be in physical form again, I think if he
    > really where a demi-god the other gods would force him off the plane.<

    1) The Serpent never signed any pact.
    2) He hasn't ascended yet (I feel only Lesser status gets to go to
    another plane).
    3) They can't stop him - mostly because they: a) haven't realized that
    he really IS a god yet (IMO, anyways) & (b) their own pact about taking
    physical form prevents them from coming down to do anything about it
    even if they did know; any proxies they send wouldn't be unable to beat
    him either (again IMO only).

    Cheers,
    Darren

  4. #4
    joe baker
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    >Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:06:08 -0800
    >From: Jim Cooper
    >To: birthright@mpgn.com
    >Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - And what's behind Awnshegh #3?
    >Reply-To: birthright@mpgn.com
    >
    >joe baker wrote:
    >> But if the serpent is really a demi-god that would violate the pact
    that the new gods made never to be in physical form again, I think if he
    >> really where a demi-god the other gods would force him off the
    plane.<
    >
    >1) The Serpent never signed any pact.
    Even the New Evil gods signed the pacts so everyone would enforce the
    rule anginst any new powers.
    >2) He hasn't ascended yet (I feel only Lesser status gets to go to
    >another plane).
    That is DM option what status is on what plane, however I've never heard
    of any power of Demi and above staying on the prime material.
    >3) They can't stop him - mostly because they: a) haven't realized that
    he really IS a god yet (IMO, anyways)
    I think Gods would get the hint if he is granting spells to worshipers.
    (b) their own pact about taking physical form prevents them from coming
    down to do anything about it even if they did know; any proxies they
    send wouldn't be unable to beat him either (again IMO only).
    As far as I've noticed the Gods avatars are higher level than the
    serpent in the BE book so they might stand a chance. Anybody good at
    divination (which I assume gods are) would be able to tell his strengths
    and weekness.


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    Kenneth Gauck
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    >Anybody good at divination (which I assume gods are) would
    >be able to tell his strengths and weekness.

    Diviniation means consulting a divinity for information. If your a god and
    you have a question, what higher power are you proposing they consult?

    KG

  6. #6
    Craig Dalrymple
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    The respected Kenneth Gauck wrote:
    >
    >Diviniation means consulting a divinity for information. If your a god and
    >you have a question, what higher power are you proposing they consult?
    >
    >KG


    But this very arguement would imply that the wizards who are Diviners are
    actually priests of a twisted sort. Ones that don't know they are, or
    worship
    their gods.

    I understand that the entymology of the word Divination means to ask for
    divine assistance, but the game kinda ignores that to a point.

    Course I'm making a small point there as I would agree that the other
    gods would know it if someone ascended. Though I don't think they could
    just force that person to leave the prime. Well they could, but not by
    asking
    somebody like the Serpent. It would take a war that threatened his base
    of followers with extinction.

    Craig

  7. #7
    Jim Cooper
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    joe baker wrote:
    > As far as I've noticed the Gods avatars are higher level than the
    > serpent in the BE book so they might stand a chance. Anybody good at
    > divination (which I assume gods are) would be able to tell his strengths and weekness.<

    But thats the point - the new gods agreed NOT to send avatars to
    Cerilia, right? Isn't an avatar a physical representation of the god on
    a prime material plane (or non-home plane, for that matter)? I figured
    they only put the stats there for when a priest casts that Transform To
    Avatar spell or whatever in the back of the BoP ...

    In regards to the last post, just like regents get to spend RPs to
    defeat actions (like espionage), I assume there is a godly equivalent
    too, so its not just cherry pie for the new gods - they are going to
    have a tough time penetrating The Serpent's 'Realm'. At least, thats
    the way I would play it.

    Honestly, I don't think any of the new gods has much time to worry about
    every awnsheghlien becoming a threat to them - and IMC, the new gods
    aren't even sure it is possible! Sure they could make educated guesses
    based on their own experience, but how many people does a scion have to
    commit bloodtheft on to do it? Hundreds? Thousands? None of the new
    gods IMC truly know this fact. As I said, only three beings in Cerilia
    know that its actually within reasonable reach for most any scion - The
    Sphinx, The Gorgon, and The Serpent. IMC, its only necessary to 1) have
    at least 75+ bloodline strength (2) have a 'True' bloodline & (3) Have a
    special investiture spell performed on the scion (which basically sucks
    out bloodpower from a wide area around the center of the spell (IMC,
    this power so far has come from Aebrynis itself, in The Serpent's case).

    But The Serpent has found that the local area is not sufficient to gain
    'Lesser' status, so he is going to have to look abroad for more
    bloodpower, whether from scions or draining the Land ... This, of
    course, is going to draw a LOT of attention, so naturally The Serpent is
    biding his time for the right moment to ascend to godhood (when no one
    can stop him from doing so, of course). What better way then to suck
    the most powerful of all blooded scions into his coils --- The Gorgon!
    (The Serpent figures this will be enough, to get Old Rockbutt's strength
    and domain power ...)

    Mwuhahaaaa!

    Cheers,
    Darren

  8. #8
    joe baker
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    >From: "Kenneth Gauck"
    >To:
    >Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - And what's behind Awnshegh #3?
    >Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:02:04 -0600
    >Reply-To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    >
    >>Anybody good at divination (which I assume gods are) would
    >>be able to tell his strengths and weekness.
    >
    >Diviniation means consulting a divinity for information. If your a god
    and
    >you have a question, what higher power are you proposing they consult?
    >
    >KG
    >
    >If gods can answer mortals question as varied as they are wouldn't that
    mean that they know what they need to themselves. If a charecter asked
    what is a weakness in an foe then the god could answer but if the god
    wants to know I think he would know the answer without consulting
    someone else.
    Wolf
    Wolf@webzone.net

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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    > Diviniation means consulting a divinity for information. If your a god and
    > you have a question, what higher power are you proposing they consult?

    They consult themselves, obviously.

  10. #10
    David Sean Brown
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    And what`s behind Awnshegh #3?

    > >2) He hasn't ascended yet (I feel only Lesser status gets to go to
    > >another plane).
    > That is DM option what status is on what plane, however I've never heard
    > of any power of Demi and above staying on the prime material.

    Actually, I can think of a few (hope I'm right cause I haven't got my
    books here) from various worlds.. Fharlaghan, Melikki (before avatar
    series), Eldath (again before avatar)..

    Sean

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