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  1. #1
    Manta
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    Shield of Halaia

    Maybe she is a Paladin waiting for attonement (PS of Khourane sais nothing
    about it but it is a possibility).
    Maybe the High Priest position passes from father(mother) to son(daughter)
    and she was not gifted enough to be a paladin (and lacked the faith to
    become a priestess).
    This does not mean the temple will perish - SOH is present in many Khinasi
    nations - maybe she has a vassal in each of them (the high priest of that
    particular country). While each priest tends for the holdings in his realm
    she takes care of other things (SOH expantion, defense from enemy faiths).
    The SOH is a big domain (26 temple holdings in total) - maybe this vassal
    technique increases their success.

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    > I have always wondered why the regent of the Shield of Halaia temple in
    > Khinasi was a fighter, of all things. I mean, she wouldn't get any
    regency
    > at all, and her temple would be soon contested to nothing. Is there any
    > rational explanation for this?
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    Shield of Halaia

    I have always wondered why the regent of the Shield of Halaia temple in
    Khinasi was a fighter, of all things. I mean, she wouldn't get any regency
    at all, and her temple would be soon contested to nothing. Is there any
    rational explanation for this?

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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Shield of Halaia

    Solmyr of the Azure Star wrote:
    >
    > I have always wondered why the regent of the Shield of Halaia temple in
    > Khinasi was a fighter, of all things. I mean, she wouldn't get any regency
    > at all, and her temple would be soon contested to nothing. Is there any
    > rational explanation for this?
    >

    I was just thinking about it, this was my idea:
    She is a temporarily fallen paladin, to regain her status she has to
    succesfully lead the temple even without RP and magic for several years.

    Pieter Sleijpen

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    Kenneth Gauck
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    Shield of Halaia

    Possibly that it is a temporary situation, representing a domain in
    transition of the death opf the proper regent. Perhaps the fighter was the
    only blooded lieutenant, and she holds the temple until a blooded priest can
    be vetted.

    Kenneth Gauck
    c558382@earthlink.net

    >I have always wondered why the regent of the Shield of Halaia temple in
    >Khinasi was a fighter, of all things. I mean, she wouldn't get any regency
    >at all, and her temple would be soon contested to nothing. Is there any
    >rational explanation for this?
    >
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    >aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star
    >aka Azure Star Dragon
    >solmyr@kolumbus.fi
    >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html
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  5. #5
    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Shield of Halaia

    Manta wrote:
    >
    > Maybe she is a Paladin waiting for attonement (PS of Khourane sais nothing
    > about it but it is a possibility).
    > Maybe the High Priest position passes from father(mother) to son(daughter)
    > and she was not gifted enough to be a paladin (and lacked the faith to
    > become a priestess).
    > This does not mean the temple will perish - SOH is present in many Khinasi
    > nations - maybe she has a vassal in each of them (the high priest of that
    > particular country). While each priest tends for the holdings in his realm
    > she takes care of other things (SOH expantion, defense from enemy faiths).
    > The SOH is a big domain (26 temple holdings in total) - maybe this vassal
    > technique increases their success.
    >

    Except that she does not earn any RP, which will make her rather
    ineffective as a ruler.

    Pieter Sleijpen

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    Daniel McSorley
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    Shield of Halaia

    From: Pieter Sleijpen
    >> The SOH is a big domain (26 temple holdings in total) - maybe this vassal
    >> technique increases their success.
    >Except that she does not earn any RP, which will make her rather
    >ineffective as a ruler.
    >
    That was the point of the "vassal technique" comment. All or most of the
    holdings are held in vassalage by local high priests, who pass on GB and RP
    to the main temple and its lady.

    Daniel McSorley- mcsorley.1@osu.edu
    http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mcsorley/

  7. #7
    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Shield of Halaia

    Daniel McSorley wrote:
    >
    > From: Pieter Sleijpen
    > >> The SOH is a big domain (26 temple holdings in total) - maybe this vassal
    > >> technique increases their success.
    > >Except that she does not earn any RP, which will make her rather
    > >ineffective as a ruler.
    > >
    > That was the point of the "vassal technique" comment. All or most of the
    > holdings are held in vassalage by local high priests, who pass on GB and RP
    > to the main temple and its lady.

    Mmmm, never thought of that. I still like the idea of the 'fallen
    paladin trying to regain her status back' better. Though I probably will
    combine it with the vassalage part, just to give her and the temple a
    fighting chance.

    Pieter

  8. #8
    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Shield of Halaia

    Peter Wiyda wrote:
    >
    > She may be a not be a cleric but a fighter with the right faith can run
    > a temple, just like a fighter can be a guild master of a thieves guild.
    > The person in charge of a holding does not have to be what everyone else
    > is that runs that holding, a leader is a leader no matter his or her
    > occupation. Just a little tip from BiggSexxxy. Sleep on it. Thank
    > you, no applaud please.
    > birthright' as the body of the message.

    I agree with you to a certain limit. Except that the rules of BR state
    that she will not get any RP for pure temple holdings. Hence she will
    not be able to do any action, except espionage. This is the reason why
    we are looking for an explanation or method to make it possible.

    Pieter Sleijpen

  9. #9
    Jim Cooper
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    Shield of Halaia

    Pieter Sleijpen wrote:
    > I agree with you to a certain limit. Except that the rules of BR state
    > that she will not get any RP for pure temple holdings. Hence she will
    > not be able to do any action, except espionage. This is the reason why
    > we are looking for an explanation or method to make it possible.<

    Sure she would: adventure actions (which, btw, is how even unblooded
    people could be regents). Adventure actions can be used to cover
    anything - from agitate to create TRs. With a kind DM, she could do
    anything a 'proper' priest can do (except, of course, cast realm
    spells).

    Cheers,
    Darren

  10. #10
    Kenneth Gauck
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    Shield of Halaia

    IMO, adventure actions are insufficent when faced with a well organized
    (lots of RP's) opponant. Using agitate as an example, the fighter-regent of
    the SoH could go from town to town, looking like the examplar of knighthood,
    giving stirring orations, and meeting important people in the various
    communities. However, that would be on the level of an agitate action with
    no RP's in support. There is no reason, an opponant could not use RP's
    against you, so that before you arrived, or after you left, rumors,
    allegations, and hostile orations and sermons would be given reducing the
    likelihood that your action would succeed.

    Kenneth Gauck
    c558382@earthlink.net

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