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02-12-1999, 01:10 AM #1Pieter SleijpenGuest
Wardings
Well,
If you all think game balance is disturbed by allowing dispel realm
magic to dispel those irritating wards at the border of your province
(see, by just using a different wording, the ward might be in your
province instead of the warded province). How about being able to cast a
warding and then lead complete armies through it!
Pieter Sleijpen
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02-12-1999, 12:42 PM #2Sindre BergGuest
Wardings
Muaadeeb@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/11/99 6:07:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> madfox@wxs.nl
> writes:
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>
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> Which requires the same things. And only elves seems to have enough
> of
> both. I have seen an elven nation destroy a human nation within two
> actions. Makes me wonder how in hells name the elves were ever
> defeated!
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> (Besides, any mage I currently DM on the PBEM is of high enough level
> to
> cast the spell, has got enough sources to cast the thing and also the
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> backing of an army -that is Erik Danig, the Fae, Rhuobhe, Bacaele (he
>
> will have it anyway)-. Seems not to be that rare, now does it?)
>
> Pieter Sleijpen
> Pieter Sleijpen
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>
> Try looking at the Sword Mage and others.....a 5 is pretty
> impressive...;-)
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> One thing that always bothered me with some of these realms spells are
the fact that you require a source (5) to cast a Warding, but if you are
high level...like HMA, Swan Mage. White Mage etc.etc. you can ward
several provinces at once...But I've never seen anyone even requiring a
single source outside the province where you cast the spell...even
though you affect lands far away from your source. And on another note,
exactly how far away can you make the spell go ? Could you f. inst. make
a straight line of warded provinces from your source or do they have to
be close to the original ? Another thing I've noticed in PBMG is that
warding should stop TR, most actions if the regent is outside the warded
area or otherwise trap the regent outside, effectively blocking the
regent from reacting to anything happening outside his "prison"... So I
beleive the Warding spell is almsot too dangerous, and regarding the
source required, except for in central Anuire a level 5 source is tricky
but not any more difficult than that...What do you others think of
this...?
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02-12-1999, 03:49 PM #3Pieter SleijpenGuest
Wardings
Sindre Berg wrote:
> One thing that always bothered me with some of these realms spells are
> the fact that you require a source (5) to cast a Warding, but if you are
> high level...like HMA, Swan Mage. White Mage etc.etc. you can ward
> several provinces at once...But I've never seen anyone even requiring a
> single source outside the province where you cast the spell...even
> though you affect lands far away from your source. And on another note,
> exactly how far away can you make the spell go ? Could you f. inst. make
> a straight line of warded provinces from your source or do they have to
> be close to the original ? Another thing I've noticed in PBMG is that
> warding should stop TR, most actions if the regent is outside the warded
> area or otherwise trap the regent outside, effectively blocking the
> regent from reacting to anything happening outside his "prison"... So I
> beleive the Warding spell is almsot too dangerous, and regarding the
> source required, except for in central Anuire a level 5 source is tricky
> but not any more difficult than that...What do you others think of
> this...?
Most people who place a ward, place it around their whole realm and make
damn sure they are inside before the wizard casted the spell. Trade
routes are of coarse impossible, but there is no other official downside
in economic potential. That while the inns and trading companies are
virtual out of bussiness. Of coarse most people would not nottice the
thing, since in the mediaval times people hardly ever left there
village, let alone the country.
Pieter Sleijpen
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02-15-1999, 07:48 PM #4Mark A VandermeulenGuest
Wardings
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sindre Berg wrote:
> One thing that always bothered me with some of these realms spells are
> the fact that you require a source (5) to cast a Warding, but if you are
> high level...like HMA, Swan Mage. White Mage etc.etc. you can ward
> several provinces at once...But I've never seen anyone even requiring a
> single source outside the province where you cast the spell...even
> though you affect lands far away from your source. And on another note,
> exactly how far away can you make the spell go ? Could you f. inst. make
> a straight line of warded provinces from your source or do they have to
> be close to the original ? Another thing I've noticed in PBMG is that
> warding should stop TR, most actions if the regent is outside the warded
> area or otherwise trap the regent outside, effectively blocking the
> regent from reacting to anything happening outside his "prison"... So I
> beleive the Warding spell is almsot too dangerous, and regarding the
> source required, except for in central Anuire a level 5 source is tricky
> but not any more difficult than that...What do you others think of
> this...?
I haven't been following this thread too closely, so forgive me if some of
these concepts have already been brought up. It seems to me that this
scenario is completely correct, and further is fully known to regents in
Anuire, and that certain strategies have been developed to combat it. For
one, there is vassalage. I think that most players tend to over look that
option, but when you have two important cites in your nation, appointing a
second vassal regent of one of them helps prevent the helplessness that
your nation faces if it falls victim to one of these spells.
Second, and this one I'm a little less sure of, but don't ley lines remain
active between Warded Provinces? That would allow a Court Wizard to bring
across the Ward at least a small party which includes the Regent, by
following along his ley line through the "mist" of the ward. And, if the
Wizard knows that Realm spell which allows her to transport units along
ley lines, that would help even more. This high-lights the importance of
realms having court wizards, gives them a valid reason for the GB
investment in them and in maintaining a network of ley lines.
Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu
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