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  1. #1
    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Wardings

    Well,

    If you all think game balance is disturbed by allowing dispel realm
    magic to dispel those irritating wards at the border of your province
    (see, by just using a different wording, the ward might be in your
    province instead of the warded province). How about being able to cast a
    warding and then lead complete armies through it!

    Pieter Sleijpen

  2. #2
    Sindre Berg
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    Wardings

    Muaadeeb@aol.com wrote:

    > In a message dated 2/11/99 6:07:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    > madfox@wxs.nl
    > writes:
    >
    >
    >
    > Which requires the same things. And only elves seems to have enough
    > of
    > both. I have seen an elven nation destroy a human nation within two
    > actions. Makes me wonder how in hells name the elves were ever
    > defeated!
    >
    > (Besides, any mage I currently DM on the PBEM is of high enough level
    > to
    > cast the spell, has got enough sources to cast the thing and also the
    >
    > backing of an army -that is Erik Danig, the Fae, Rhuobhe, Bacaele (he
    >
    > will have it anyway)-. Seems not to be that rare, now does it?)
    >
    > Pieter Sleijpen
    > Pieter Sleijpen
    > >>
    >
    > Try looking at the Sword Mage and others.....a 5 is pretty
    > impressive...;-)
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    > One thing that always bothered me with some of these realms spells are
    the fact that you require a source (5) to cast a Warding, but if you are
    high level...like HMA, Swan Mage. White Mage etc.etc. you can ward
    several provinces at once...But I've never seen anyone even requiring a
    single source outside the province where you cast the spell...even
    though you affect lands far away from your source. And on another note,
    exactly how far away can you make the spell go ? Could you f. inst. make
    a straight line of warded provinces from your source or do they have to
    be close to the original ? Another thing I've noticed in PBMG is that
    warding should stop TR, most actions if the regent is outside the warded
    area or otherwise trap the regent outside, effectively blocking the
    regent from reacting to anything happening outside his "prison"... So I
    beleive the Warding spell is almsot too dangerous, and regarding the
    source required, except for in central Anuire a level 5 source is tricky
    but not any more difficult than that...What do you others think of
    this...?


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  3. #3
    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Wardings

    Sindre Berg wrote:

    > One thing that always bothered me with some of these realms spells are
    > the fact that you require a source (5) to cast a Warding, but if you are
    > high level...like HMA, Swan Mage. White Mage etc.etc. you can ward
    > several provinces at once...But I've never seen anyone even requiring a
    > single source outside the province where you cast the spell...even
    > though you affect lands far away from your source. And on another note,
    > exactly how far away can you make the spell go ? Could you f. inst. make
    > a straight line of warded provinces from your source or do they have to
    > be close to the original ? Another thing I've noticed in PBMG is that
    > warding should stop TR, most actions if the regent is outside the warded
    > area or otherwise trap the regent outside, effectively blocking the
    > regent from reacting to anything happening outside his "prison"... So I
    > beleive the Warding spell is almsot too dangerous, and regarding the
    > source required, except for in central Anuire a level 5 source is tricky
    > but not any more difficult than that...What do you others think of
    > this...?

    Most people who place a ward, place it around their whole realm and make
    damn sure they are inside before the wizard casted the spell. Trade
    routes are of coarse impossible, but there is no other official downside
    in economic potential. That while the inns and trading companies are
    virtual out of bussiness. Of coarse most people would not nottice the
    thing, since in the mediaval times people hardly ever left there
    village, let alone the country.

    Pieter Sleijpen

  4. #4
    Mark A Vandermeulen
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    Wardings

    On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sindre Berg wrote:

    > One thing that always bothered me with some of these realms spells are
    > the fact that you require a source (5) to cast a Warding, but if you are
    > high level...like HMA, Swan Mage. White Mage etc.etc. you can ward
    > several provinces at once...But I've never seen anyone even requiring a
    > single source outside the province where you cast the spell...even
    > though you affect lands far away from your source. And on another note,
    > exactly how far away can you make the spell go ? Could you f. inst. make
    > a straight line of warded provinces from your source or do they have to
    > be close to the original ? Another thing I've noticed in PBMG is that
    > warding should stop TR, most actions if the regent is outside the warded
    > area or otherwise trap the regent outside, effectively blocking the
    > regent from reacting to anything happening outside his "prison"... So I
    > beleive the Warding spell is almsot too dangerous, and regarding the
    > source required, except for in central Anuire a level 5 source is tricky
    > but not any more difficult than that...What do you others think of
    > this...?

    I haven't been following this thread too closely, so forgive me if some of
    these concepts have already been brought up. It seems to me that this
    scenario is completely correct, and further is fully known to regents in
    Anuire, and that certain strategies have been developed to combat it. For
    one, there is vassalage. I think that most players tend to over look that
    option, but when you have two important cites in your nation, appointing a
    second vassal regent of one of them helps prevent the helplessness that
    your nation faces if it falls victim to one of these spells.

    Second, and this one I'm a little less sure of, but don't ley lines remain
    active between Warded Provinces? That would allow a Court Wizard to bring
    across the Ward at least a small party which includes the Regent, by
    following along his ley line through the "mist" of the ward. And, if the
    Wizard knows that Realm spell which allows her to transport units along
    ley lines, that would help even more. This high-lights the importance of
    realms having court wizards, gives them a valid reason for the GB
    investment in them and in maintaining a network of ley lines.

    Mark VanderMeulen
    vander+@pitt.edu

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