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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Forsaken Priests (long)

    I have taken the liberty to taking the Priesthandbook before me (page
    120 - 121). Not that I fully agree with wat is in here, but then you
    know TSR's official view on the thing. In it there are four kinds of
    catogeries of divine punishment a priest can get:
    *Minor offenses
    *Inappropriate weapon and armor use (not really appropraite for Belinik)
    *Betrayel of Goals
    *Divine Retribution

    Minor Offenses - Not much detail on what a minor offence is. It is
    punished by withholding some spells or powers for a view day's, just to
    make a point.

    Betrayel of Goals - "The first time this happens, the god will give the
    priest an unmistakable warning. This could be a heart attack, costing
    50% of the priest's current hit points. It could be a portentous
    destruction of a statue of the god while the priest is present. It could
    be an earthquake or other warning. The warning doesn't have to
    immediatly after the betrayel, but will soon after.
    The second time this happens, the god will appear to the priests. It
    doesn't have to be in person, right then; it might be in a dream, the
    night following the betrayel. The god will sternly ask the character his
    motives and order him to return to proper worship.
    !The third time this happens, the god will immediatly reduce the
    charater to 1 hp and CHANGE his character class. The priest will become
    an ordinary FIGHTER at an experience level two LOWER then the priest's
    level (minimum first level); his normal hit points total and possessions
    will be unaffected. Until the character undergoes a severe ritual of
    atonement, the god will despise the character and plague him with little
    ills, diseases and enemies. Once the character attones for the deed, the
    god forgives him...but the character will still be a FIGHTER."

    Divine retribution - You don't wanna know (the change of class is the
    minium punishment and death is also a minor punishment).

    I personally think that even evil deities like Belinik will give an
    offending priest two chances before giving final punishment. They have
    allowed the priest to enter their services afterall and retaking that
    privelege, is a loss of face for the god also. They made an error in
    judgement afterall. I also think that Belinik would not punish the
    character with death, that seems way to forgiving for him. Taking away
    his ability to fight and then making him a slave seems a lot more along
    his lines.

    Pieter Sleijpen

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    Jim Cooper
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    Forsaken Priests (long)

    Pieter Sleijpen wrote:
    > I have taken the liberty to taking the Priesthandbook before me (page
    > 120 - 121). Not that I fully agree with wat is in here, but then you
    > know TSR's official view on the thing. <

    Thanks Pieter!

    Cheers,
    Darren

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    Forsaken Priests (long)

    > > I have taken the liberty to taking the Priesthandbook before me (page
    > > 120 - 121). Not that I fully agree with wat is in here, but then you
    > > know TSR's official view on the thing. <

    Here's some other official TSR stuff. It's from Faiths & Avatars, which
    was released in 1996. Thus, the material therein is a bit more up to date
    with current AD&D standards. Whatever the case, the text in F&A seems
    preferable to the one in the CPrHB, IMHO. Read on...

    - the Falcon

    And here's the actual text from Faiths & Avatars:

    " Transgression and Penance: Of course, priests and others who have a
    direct relationship with their deities (such as paladins and rangers) can
    anger their powers in many ways other than a change of loyalties.
    Behavior violations of alignment codes are usually considered at least
    minor transgressions and are punished by the temporary loss of low-level
    spells. Minor transgressions can usually be corrected by an act of
    penance, such as fasting, meditation, the gift of a minor amount of money
    to the order, or an offering of another type preferred by the power.
    Neglecting to perform the proper rituals or failing to strive toward
    fulfilling the deity's goals are examples of moderate transgressions.
    Such infractions are punished by the loss of granted powers and high-level
    spells and can only be rectified through major penance. In addition to a
    period of fasting or meditation, such priests must each give at least one
    moderately powerful magical item to their order (never to be used by them
    again), and/or undertake some dangerous quest on their deity's behalf.
    Priests who commit heresy, a second moderate transgression, or who
    willfully disobey or ignore their deities have commited a major
    transgression. Such transgressions are always punished by an immediate
    and total loss of all priestly powers and spells. If the deity is a
    neutral or evil one and the offense is serious enough, major transgression
    may even be punished by death in whatever form the deity has the power to
    arrange. Penance, if the deity allows it, must be accompanied by a
    complete sacrifice of all possessions save one set of normal clothing and
    one nonmagical weapon. Then such errant priests must undertake a
    seemingly impossible quest involving a high risk of death and donate all
    treasure recovered, including magical items, to their deities' orders.
    Fortunately, the path for most priests is a narrow but well-marked one.
    For a true and faithful priest, the commision of even a minor
    transgression should be a rare thing. By and large, the majority of
    priests should never have to make penance for anything worse than a minor
    transgression."

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