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    Kenneth Gauck
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    Lead Poisoning

    The Romans were very clever to use lead pipes. They saw how the Greeks used
    copper pipes and copper poisoning is very rapid and very sever. Lead
    poisoning is slow and subtle. It makes you stupid, agressive, and lazy.
    Copper poisoning makes you go mad.

    Kenneth Gauck
    c558382@earthlink.net

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    From: Morg
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    >Anyway, I am curious. Are the Anuireans past the use of lead in pipes and
    >pottery and such? I was thinking that some mad Emperors and crazy Dukes
    might
    >soon be surfacing if they are not.

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    Lead Poisoning

    > The Romans were very clever to use lead pipes. They saw how the Greeks used
    > copper pipes and copper poisoning is very rapid and very sever. Lead
    > poisoning is slow and subtle. It makes you stupid, agressive, and lazy.
    > Copper poisoning makes you go mad.

    Ah... so _that's where they got the name for Heavy Metal... ;)

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    Mark A Vandermeulen
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    Lead Poisoning

    On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Kenneth Gauck wrote:

    > The Romans were very clever to use lead pipes. They saw how the Greeks used
    > copper pipes and copper poisoning is very rapid and very sever. Lead
    > poisoning is slow and subtle. It makes you stupid, agressive, and lazy.
    > Copper poisoning makes you go mad.

    How about bronze? Anyone know how easy it is to cast/extrude bronze as
    piping, and what sort of physiochemical interactions THAT would cause? If
    I don't misremember, bronze is an alloy of copper and tin, so it might not
    be much better than copper. On the plus side, however, metalurgists of the
    time should have no lack of experience working with it.

    Oh, and on the subject of windows, I would expect that window glass is
    available, but quite expensive. Glass-making is a very ancient art in our
    world, although glass with the quality, clarity and resilience of our
    modern glass is fairly recent. If you've ever been in an older house and
    looked out the window, you probably noticed that the glass appeared
    "rippled" and distorted the picture. This is because glass is not actually
    a solid (i.e. having a crystaline structure) but is in fact an extremely
    viscous liquid--it does run, but with glacial slowness. However, many of
    our modern hardeners have probably not been discovered at this stage in
    Anuire, although glass improvements are probably immediately profitable
    for guilds, and so I would expect them to be the subject of guild research
    if anything is. Glass windows would be a luxury item, and the nobility
    would probably be the cheif purchasers. However, they wouldn't be the
    great panes we're used to today unless they were magically treated in some
    way. Instead, most windows are made of mosaics of panes of glass not much
    bigger than the palm of your hand, usually in squares or pointy-ended
    ovals. Generally, think of stained glass windows, and then put clear glass
    in them. And expect the glass to be good at letting light in but not as
    good at letting images pass through--unless its extremely high quality
    (and expensive) glass for the time it would be cloudy and distort images:
    you could see that there was a man in a blue cloak standing outside the
    window, but would not be able to recognize his face unless you opened the
    window. However, windows are greatly desired, and anyone who could afford
    one would have one. They are a welcome luxury in the summer, as other
    forms of light are also heat sources.

    Mark VanderMeulen
    vander+@pitt.edu

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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Lead Poisoning

    Mark A Vandermeulen wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Kenneth Gauck wrote:
    >
    > > The Romans were very clever to use lead pipes. They saw how the Greeks used
    > > copper pipes and copper poisoning is very rapid and very sever. Lead
    > > poisoning is slow and subtle. It makes you stupid, agressive, and lazy.
    > > Copper poisoning makes you go mad.

    What is the difference between 'mad' and "stupid, aggresive and lazy"?
    Off coarse all those insane emporers where easy to manipulate by the
    younger members of the senate, who had not yet poisoned themselves. Lead
    by the way is very dangerous to young childeren. What kind of copper
    tubes are currently in use? An alloy between iron and copper? I do know
    that poisoning is not much of a problem, in fact a recent research in
    the Netherlands showed that if we were going to replace the copper
    tubes, the people would get a copper shortage (yes, copper is needed,
    unlike lead).

    How far is the development of the press? That might also be a
    development that would be very interesting to guilds. Paper would also
    be one of such things. Diamond cutting is also a very recent addition to
    out RL technology. With a little bit of thinking a lot more developments
    could be placed in the game.

    Pieter Sleijpen

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    Brian Stoner
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    Lead Poisoning

    Um, call me stupid, but don't we use copper piping a lot these days? Perhaps I
    haven't been paying attention..I've never heard of copper poisoning. Of course,
    I prefer plastic pipes wherever possible...but the Anuireans aren't too likely
    to have that.

    Dearnen

    Kenneth Gauck wrote:

    > The Romans were very clever to use lead pipes. They saw how the Greeks used
    > copper pipes and copper poisoning is very rapid and very sever. Lead
    > poisoning is slow and subtle. It makes you stupid, agressive, and lazy.
    > Copper poisoning makes you go mad.

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    Olesens
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    Lead Poisoning

    Kenneth Gauck wrote:

    > The Romans were very clever to use lead pipes. They saw how the Greeks used
    > copper pipes and copper poisoning is very rapid and very sever. Lead
    > poisoning is slow and subtle. It makes you stupid, agressive, and lazy.
    > Copper poisoning makes you go mad.

    Hmm, ever try redoing your palace in copper just before the rebellious mayor
    took it over? Heh, heh.

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