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01-31-1999, 10:27 PM #1Jim CooperGuest
A silly question
Hey everybody:
I have a question for all you folks, especially from the listers who
live in Norway, Denmark, or Sweden, or anyone who has visited those
countries:
Has anyone ever heard of a raven-haired Norse warrior? Is this from the
demented mind of one of my players or were there actually a few dark
haired vikings in the annals of history?
(One of my players has this idea for a black haired Rjurik warrior - why
I can't fathom ... as usual for such a crazy notion, I got sucked into a
stupid arguement with one of my players about black hair and Norse dudes
being an impossiblity, but I thought I might get a second insight from
you good people).
Cheers,
Darren
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01-31-1999, 11:21 PM #2OlesensGuest
A silly question
> One of my players has this idea for a black haired Rjurik warrior - why
> I can't fathom ... as usual for such a crazy notion, I got sucked into a
> stupid arguement with one of my players about black hair and Norse dudes
> being an impossiblity, but I thought I might get a second insight from
> you good people
Sounds familiar. I had a player who wanted Silver hair. My answer: Bloodmark.
Hey, it works.
Andrew
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02-01-1999, 07:28 AM #3Sindre BergGuest
A silly question
At 14:27 31.01.99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey everybody:
>
>I have a question for all you folks, especially from the listers who
>live in Norway, Denmark, or Sweden, or anyone who has visited those
>countries:
>
>Has anyone ever heard of a raven-haired Norse warrior? Is this from the
>demented mind of one of my players or were there actually a few dark
>haired vikings in the annals of history?
>
>(One of my players has this idea for a black haired Rjurik warrior - why
>I can't fathom ... as usual for such a crazy notion, I got sucked into a
>stupid arguement with one of my players about black hair and Norse dudes
>being an impossiblity, but I thought I might get a second insight from
>you good people).
>
>Cheers,
>Darren
>
>************************************************* **************************
>>I'm from Norway, and I beleive there was dark-haired Vikings, if that was
what you meant ?
After all you've got the classical looting viking which grabs a few
dark-haired females from
Ireland, Scotland or other suitable place and then brings her back as slave
(nor: trell). She then
ends up with a child and after a generation or two her grandson is a viking
himself, presto a
dark-haired viking... Of course I don't have any real proof or anything for
this idea, but it
does seem a very realistic scenario to me. At least real enough to be of
good use in a campaign.
Anyway the player would have to come up with a good story of course
himself. Other Olesen's
idea is good too....
Sindre
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02-01-1999, 10:57 AM #4Kai BesteGuest
A silly question
> Has anyone ever heard of a raven-haired Norse warrior? Is this from the
> demented mind of one of my players or were there actually a few dark
> haired vikings in the annals of history?
IIRC the Rjurik Highlands says in the section on special dooms that
Rjurik bersekers almost always have black hair. So I suppose it
should be possible.
Otherwise the bloodmark idea should work.
laters
Kai
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02-01-1999, 05:36 PM #5Keyplate72@aol.coGuest
A silly question
I'm by no means an expert, and even somewhat lacking in knowledge of my own
family knowlege, but I'm Scottish and by wife is Swedish, both of us have
dark hair.
My family has been in America now for about 50 years so we're daluted, but my
wife is a Swedish citizen and her hair is about as raven as hair could get. I
know that in pictures of her as a child, she had blond hair until she was
about 13 or so. Both her parents are blond hair, go figure.
I think the slave theory is most probable and I think if works well expecially
if a Rjuik (sp?) originated near the Brecht, elven lands.
Brad
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02-01-1999, 08:38 PM #6Jim CooperGuest
A silly question
Sindre Berg wrote:
> I'm from Norway, and I beleive there was dark-haired Vikings, if that was what you meant ?<
Yes, thanks!
> After all you've got the classical looting viking which grabs a few
> dark-haired females from Ireland, Scotland or other suitable place and then brings her back as slave (nor: trell). She then ends up with a child and after a generation or two her grandson is a viking himself, presto a dark-haired viking...<
Yes, that makes sense; I've just always held the impression that
everyone in Sweden is blonde, for example ... :) I guess thats just a
popular misconception!
Cheers,
Darren
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02-01-1999, 11:37 PM #7Sindre BergGuest
A silly question
Jim Cooper wrote:
> Sindre Berg wrote:
> > I'm from Norway, and I beleive there was dark-haired Vikings, if
> that was what you meant ?<
>
> Yes, thanks!
>
> > After all you've got the classical looting viking which grabs a few
> > dark-haired females from Ireland, Scotland or other suitable place
> and then brings her back as slave (nor: trell). She then ends up with
> a child and after a generation or two her grandson is a viking
> himself, presto a dark-haired viking...<
>
> Yes, that makes sense; I've just always held the impression that
> everyone in Sweden is blonde, for example ... :) I guess thats just a
>
> popular misconception!
>
> Cheers,
> Darren
>
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> Well as far as I know only about 25% are really what you would call
blonde naturally...remember that blondness often comes from the hair
getting bleached in the sun. But of course Chlorine can do wonders for
haircolor :)
I'll stop now, I'm getting way off-topic...
Sindre
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www.uio.no/~sindrejb
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02-02-1999, 07:50 PM #8TriztGuest
A silly question
Jim Cooper wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of a raven-haired Norse warrior? Is this from the
> demented mind of one of my players or were there actually a few dark
> haired vikings in the annals of history?
Most common descriptions of Norse warrirors tells about blond and red
hear, but if I don't remember my Asatro from elementry school, one of
the Norse gods had black hair.
It's not that common with descriptions of hair/eye color, it's only when
someone has an unusual coloring when the color is mentioned.
I think I dare to say that most of the people in this region had brown
hair and green/brown eyes in those days.
//Trizt
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