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  1. #1
    Jeff Dunnett
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    A Note on Priest

    A note on Priest. My gaming group has recently been discussing the
    topic of priests. We were trying to figure out first whether or not
    regular clerics existed. Secondly, if specialty priest had to be the
    same alignment of their god, or could they be any alignment listed on
    the list of allowed alignments in the BoP. The DM finaling decided to
    make it that only blooded character could be specialty priest, kind of
    like mages, and that you had to be the alignment of your god to be a
    specialty priest. I was wondering what everyone thought about this.





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  2. #2
    Pieter A de Jong
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    A Note on Priest

    Jeff Dunnett wrote:
    >
    > A note on Priest. My gaming group has recently been discussing the
    > topic of priests. We were trying to figure out first whether or not
    > regular clerics existed. Secondly, if specialty priest had to be the
    > same alignment of their god, or could they be any alignment listed on
    > the list of allowed alignments in the BoP. The DM finaling decided to
    > make it that only blooded character could be specialty priest, kind of
    > like mages, and that you had to be the alignment of your god to be a
    > specialty priest. I was wondering what everyone thought about this.
    >
    > __________________________________________________ _______

    Well, your DM's ruling is certainly a big change from what I get out of
    the Birthright boxed set. IMC I say that 1) only the speciality priests
    presented in the back of the original birthright book exist (for humans
    at least). ie No generic clerics. 2) A priest can be any of the
    alignments listed as a acceptable in the BoP. 3) No bloodline is
    required to be a priest.

    Second I think you should seriously consider the implications of making
    a bloodline a requirement for priest. It suggests that the humans had
    no priestly magic before Diesmaar, completely undercutting one of the
    main ideas about how the elves lost the initial elven-human war. Also,
    it suggest even in present times the humans have no hope of matching
    elven domains battle magic. It gives the elven domains an almost
    unbeatable edge, as unblooded elves can be true mages, whereas no
    unblooded human can wield battle magic (no, I don't think that magicians
    should be allowed to use battle magic). Especially with the increased
    numbers of spellcasters that immortality is going to result in.
    - --

    Pieter A de Jong
    Graduate Mechanical Engineering Student
    University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

  3. #3
    Brenda L. Santer
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    A Note on Priest

    >A note on Priest. My gaming group has recently been discussing the
    >topic of priests. We were trying to figure out first whether or not
    >regular clerics existed. Secondly, if specialty priest had to be the
    >same alignment of their god, or could they be any alignment listed on
    >the list of allowed alignments in the BoP. The DM finaling decided to
    >make it that only blooded character could be specialty priest, kind of
    >like mages, and that you had to be the alignment of your god to be a
    >specialty priest. I was wondering what everyone thought about this.
    >
    >
    This I think is one of the areas that is laid out fairly well on the
    Birthright books. The main rulebook states on page 11, that "every priest
    character must choose one of the Cerilian Powers and abide by the allowed
    weapons, armor and spheres of access granted to priests of that deity."
    This seems to make it clear that the generic cleric does not exist in
    Cerilia, only the specialty priest.

    I see no reason to infer that a priest must be blooded, though those who
    rise to the positions of power to control temple holdings and to cast
    priest realm spells will of course need to be blooded.

    The alignment question is answered in the BOP and the main rulebook. In
    each deity's listing, there are 3 alignments listed. AL: is the alignment
    of the deity himself/herself. WAL: is the range of alignments that the
    worshippers must adhere to. Finally in the section under each deity's
    preisthood, you will find a third alignment listing which gives the options
    for priests of that deity.

    So taking Laerme for example:
    Laerme herself is Chaotic good
    Her followers can be of any nonevil alignment
    Her priests can be of any Good alignment.
    Thus while her followers can be drawn from 6 alignments, her priests have
    only 3 choices of alignment.

    Hope this helps.


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  4. #4
    DKEvermore@aol.co
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    A Note on Priest

    In a message dated 1/29/99 3:37:33 PM, knightoftherose98@yahoo.com writes:

    >A note on Priest. My gaming group has recently been discussing the
    >topic of priests. We were trying to figure out first whether or not
    >regular clerics existed. Secondly, if specialty priest had to be the
    >same alignment of their god, or could they be any alignment listed on
    >the list of allowed alignments in the BoP. The DM finaling decided to
    >make it that only blooded character could be specialty priest, kind of
    >like mages, and that you had to be the alignment of your god to be a
    >specialty priest. I was wondering what everyone thought about this.
    >
    I thought the BR rules were very clear on this. There are no general
    clerics--all priests are specific to one particular god. And you have to
    follow the alignment requirements to receive any spells (as well as whatever
    strictures the gods want).

    - -DKE

  5. #5
    Jeff Dunnett
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    A Note on Priest

    Thanks. I see your point. I agree how would this work before the
    battle of desimaar, and the human elven wars. Thanks.




    - ---Pieter A de Jong wrote:
    >
    > Jeff Dunnett wrote:
    > >
    > > A note on Priest. My gaming group has recently been discussing the
    > > topic of priests. We were trying to figure out first whether or not
    > > regular clerics existed. Secondly, if specialty priest had to be
    the
    > > same alignment of their god, or could they be any alignment listed
    on
    > > the list of allowed alignments in the BoP. The DM finaling
    decided to
    > > make it that only blooded character could be specialty priest,
    kind of
    > > like mages, and that you had to be the alignment of your god to be a
    > > specialty priest. I was wondering what everyone thought about this.
    > >
    > > __________________________________________________ _______
    >
    > Well, your DM's ruling is certainly a big change from what I get out
    of
    > the Birthright boxed set. IMC I say that 1) only the speciality
    priests
    > presented in the back of the original birthright book exist (for
    humans
    > at least). ie No generic clerics. 2) A priest can be any of the
    > alignments listed as a acceptable in the BoP. 3) No bloodline is
    > required to be a priest.
    >
    > Second I think you should seriously consider the implications of
    making
    > a bloodline a requirement for priest. It suggests that the humans had
    > no priestly magic before Diesmaar, completely undercutting one of the
    > main ideas about how the elves lost the initial elven-human war. Also,
    > it suggest even in present times the humans have no hope of matching
    > elven domains battle magic. It gives the elven domains an almost
    > unbeatable edge, as unblooded elves can be true mages, whereas no
    > unblooded human can wield battle magic (no, I don't think that
    magicians
    > should be allowed to use battle magic). Especially with the increased
    > numbers of spellcasters that immortality is going to result in.
    > --
    >

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