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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    Are there any rules for bards learning and using wizardly Realm Spells?
    Can they use them or not? How about rangers and paladins? Can they
    use priestly Realm Spells? Or are Realm Spells a privilege strictly
    reserved to wizards and priests? What about source holdings?
    Can non-wizards create and rules source holdings? If not, can bards?
    And what gods can rangers worship? Are they all from the faith or
    Eric exclusively?
    Just a few questions. I really wonder if there's anything official on the
    matter...
    - the Falcon

    PS: I don't have a copy of neither the BoM nor the BoP, if that's any
    help...

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    Trizt
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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    the Falcon wrote:
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    > Are there any rules for bards learning and using wizardly Realm Spells?
    If you are looking for official rules, then the answer is, "No, bards,
    rangers and paladins aren't allowed to use realmspells".

    > Or are Realm Spells a privilege strictly
    > reserved to wizards and priests?
    Yes

    > What about source holdings?
    > Can non-wizards create and rules source holdings?
    Only wizards can create source holdings, but a non-wizard can inherit a
    source-holding, but can't do anything with it.

    > And what gods can rangers worship? Are they all from the faith or
    > Eric exclusively?
    Rangers can worship any god who allows NG worshippers.


    //Trizt

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    Jim Cooper
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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    the Falcon wrote:
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    > Are there any rules for bards learning and using wizardly Realm Spells? Can they use them or not? How about rangers and paladins? Can they use priestly Realm Spells?<

    Sorry, no to all questions (unless you, the DM, likes to inflict pain on
    yourself).

    > Or are Realm Spells a privilege strictly reserved to wizards and priests? What about source holdings?<

    Yes and thats right.

    > Can non-wizards create and rules source holdings?<

    Nope.

    >If not, can bards?<

    Neither can they.

    > And what gods can rangers worship? Are they all from the faith or
    > Eric exclusively?<

    Good question - I would have to look that one up ...

    Cheers,
    Darren

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    JulesMrshn@aol.co
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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    In a message dated 1/27/99 9:37:09 AM Central Standard Time,
    m.m.richert@twi.tudelft.nl writes:

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    Kai Beste
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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    > Are there any rules for bards learning and using wizardly Realm Spells?
    > Can they use them or not?

    According to the official rules, no.

    > How about rangers and paladins? Can they use priestly Realm Spells?
    > Or are Realm Spells a privilege strictly reserved to wizards and
    > priests?

    Again, not if you stick to the official rules. However, as I have
    stated before and will do so again (and probably earn some flak
    again), I would allow paladins (and paladins only) to cast realm
    spells according to their casting level, starting at 9th lvl, from
    the four spheres they have access to. My reasoning is that paladins
    get full regency from temple holdings, and also has to do with the
    way I portray paladins.
    I would advise not doing this for bards (they are already quite
    powerful).

    > What about source holdings? Can non-wizards create and rules source
    > holdings? If not, can bards?

    Nope to all three. Non-wizards can only inherit source holdings. If
    they own them, they can restrcit access to the, and allow friendly
    wizards to tap them.

    > And what gods can rangers worship? Are they all from the faith or
    > Eric exclusively?

    I don't think there's any rule about this, but I think most (if not
    all) rangers are followers of Erik. There is no other god of nature
    in BR. Maybe a Khinasi ranger could worship Avani and see her light
    as the source of all life...

    laterz

    Kai

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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    > Rangers can worship any god who allows NG worshippers.

    Neutral Good? That doesn't make sense. Rangers can just as well be
    Chaotic or Lawful as Neutral Good. Just as long as they're good, it's all
    the same.

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    Trizt
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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    the Falcon wrote:
    > > Rangers can worship any god who allows NG worshippers.
    > Neutral Good? That doesn't make sense. Rangers can just as well be
    > Chaotic or Lawful as Neutral Good. Just as long as they're good, it's all
    > the same.
    Can't remeber what I was thinking of when I wrote that. It should have
    been, the fait must allow worshipers from that form of good alignment,
    which would disqualify a chaotic good ranger to get powers from a
    religion which only allows lawful good worshipers. The only exception
    would be elves in Cerilia, who don't have to belive/worship a god as
    they get their powers from the nature.

    //Trizt

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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    > Can't remeber what I was thinking of when I wrote that. It should have
    > been, the fait must allow worshipers from that form of good alignment,
    > which would disqualify a chaotic good ranger to get powers from a
    > religion which only allows lawful good worshipers. The only exception
    > would be elves in Cerilia, who don't have to belive/worship a god as
    > they get their powers from the nature.

    Then how would an elven ranger get his priestly spells? Anyone ever
    thought of that?

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    Kai Beste
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    Bards and Realm Spells...

    > > Can't remeber what I was thinking of when I wrote that. It should have
    > > been, the fait must allow worshipers from that form of good alignment,
    > > which would disqualify a chaotic good ranger to get powers from a
    > > religion which only allows lawful good worshipers. The only exception
    > > would be elves in Cerilia, who don't have to belive/worship a god as
    > > they get their powers from the nature.
    >
    > Then how would an elven ranger get his priestly spells? Anyone ever
    > thought of that?

    Through his own belief in nature. Belief can make funny things
    happen. Actually, 1st ed. had rules for this, but I think
    casting first and second level spells was solely a matter of belief,
    and only higher level spells had to be granted by a god.

    Kai

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