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    JulesMrshn@aol.co
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    Nationalism?

    Nationalism in BR? I don't think so. I have reciently been reflecting on the
    people of Cerilia. They are in a wartorn land of constant border changing in
    all of the BR games I have been involved with. I have begun to think that the
    average person thins of themselves not as Avanese, but as Dhalese, Calnorian,
    Nantrilian. Theyidentify with the local more then with the ruler. Now true, in
    the bigger states, they will identify that they are included, but they will
    still say I am Nantrilian to others before I am Avanese (Unless of course,
    they are in the government). Without schools to preach the "greatness" of
    their domain, they will identify with their provience before their nation.

    Just a few thoughts

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    DKEvermore@aol.co
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    Nationalism?

    In a message dated 1/20/99 1:11:31 AM Central Standard Time,
    JulesMrshn@aol.com writes:

    > Nationalism in BR? I don't think so. I have reciently been reflecting on
    the
    > people of Cerilia. They are in a wartorn land of constant border changing
    > in
    > all of the BR games I have been involved with. I have begun to think that
    > the
    > average person thins of themselves not as Avanese, but as Dhalese,
    Calnorian,
    >
    > Nantrilian. Theyidentify with the local more then with the ruler. Now true,
    > in
    > the bigger states, they will identify that they are included, but they will
    > still say I am Nantrilian to others before I am Avanese (Unless of course,
    > they are in the government). Without schools to preach the "greatness" of
    > their domain, they will identify with their provience before their nation.
    >
    > Just a few thoughts
    >
    I agree. Here are some more thoughts:

    In Rjurik, loyalty would go to the family or clan.

    In Vos, loyalty would go to the warlord, chief or king personally.

    In Brechtur, loyalty would go to guy with the most money, the richest merchant
    king.

    No where in Cerilia would I think the ideas of nationalism would have yet been
    developed. I think it would be folly for a Player Character to believe that
    her people would fight and die for Queen & Country. Nope. "THEY'RE the
    blooded ones. THEY'RE the nobility. Let them solve their own problems. THEY
    have all the our tax money." Etc. Only those with a direct, immediate reason
    to serve would fight. By this I mean the military (willingly mustered), paid
    retainers, vassals who don't have the balls to rebel (Yet!), allies, and
    levies pressed into military service.

    That's pretty much the way I make it in my campaign. 'Course in the long run,
    it doesn't make much difference--there'll usually always be _someone_ willing
    to fight for the regents (if only to get a cut of the treasury!).

    - -Dustin Evermore

  3. #3
    Trizt
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    Nationalism?

    JulesMrshn@aol.com wrote:
    >
    > Nationalism in BR? I don't think so. I have reciently been reflecting on the
    > people of Cerilia. They are in a wartorn land of constant border changing in
    > all of the BR games I have been involved with. I have begun to think that the
    > average person thins of themselves not as Avanese, but as Dhalese, Calnorian,
    > Nantrilian. Theyidentify with the local more then with the ruler. Now true, in
    > the bigger states, they will identify that they are included, but they will
    > still say I am Nantrilian to others before I am Avanese (Unless of course,
    > they are in the government). Without schools to preach the "greatness" of
    > their domain, they will identify with their provience before their nation.

    I agree totally, as nationalism is quite new even in our world, it's
    first during late 18th, early 18th centoury you can start talking about
    nationalism where the lower classes has been invovled.

    //Trizt

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