To quote briefly from Geoffrey Barraclough:
"Uprisings against the state were a fact of life throughout the 16th and
17th centuries. Some revolts rose from attacks on the priveleges of the
various estates [any group with special legal rights]; others were caused by
economic hardship -- from taxes imposed when prices were high and
unemployment widespread, as was the case in most French popular revolts, or
from the enclosing of common land, which caused the revolts of 1549 and 1607
in England. In all cases the revolts were a responce to attempts at
innovation."

I would hope that mere mention of the Great Peasant Revolt in England in
1381 and the Jacquerie in France in 1357 will remind readers that peasant
unrest is as much a medieval phenomena as it is early modern. I have seen a
fugure of 500 uprisings in France between 1500 and 1650. If anyone has a
source for late medieval France, I would be very interested.

BTW, Trizt, let us not forget that Sigusmund was Catholic in Lutheran
Sweden, saw himself as reconquering Sweden for Catholicism, was married to a
Habsburg, and was close to tha Papacy. As king of Poland he clashed with
his father (Sweden) over Lithuania, and once succeding in Sweden he became
involved in a major constitutional crisis over his abuse of powers. It was
not Charles (Karl) who stole Sweden from Sigusmund, but the Swedish people
who deposed Sigusmund and placed a Lutheran Vasa on the throne.

Kenneth Gauck
c558382@earthlink.net

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From: Trizt
To: birthright@MPGN.COM
Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - peasent uprising [was --I recant (sort of)]


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>I would disagree with you Kenneth, the medieval "folk uprise" is quite
>uncommon, it was more commmon with a lord making rebellion against a
>leade which he disliked. It may sometimes seem that it was an "folk
>uprise" but if you examine those happening you will find a noble who
>undermined another lord and pumped in money to people who too disliked
>the noble in power, a good example of this is how councler Karl managed
>to steal part of the crown from King Sigismund of Finalnd, Poland and
>Sweden. Karl paid anormous amounts of money to make a "folk uprise"
>against Vice Ruler Flemming.
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> //Trizt
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