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  1. #1
    Alexander MacLeod
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    BR`s High Level Charaters

    Andrew wrote:

    >I mean, a 14th level charachter is very, very hard to
    >find (as it should be according to the DMG).

    And I agree. I recently compiled a list of all the true mages on
    Cerilia (as provided in the TSR materials). Out of 154 wizards who can
    cast true magic, only three are archmages (18+ level). These are Grand
    Mistress Lleddra from the Rjurik Highlands, the Magian and Lord of
    Ghouls (el-Shigh├╝l) of Khinasi. Can anyone give me similar info in
    comparison with Forgotten Realms' main continent?

    Alexander

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  2. #2
    Gary V. Foss
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    BR`s High Level Charaters

    Alexander MacLeod wrote:

    > Andrew wrote:
    >
    > >I mean, a 14th level charachter is very, very hard to
    > >find (as it should be according to the DMG).
    >
    > And I agree. I recently compiled a list of all the true mages on
    > Cerilia (as provided in the TSR materials). Out of 154 wizards who can
    > cast true magic, only three are archmages (18+ level). These are Grand
    > Mistress Lleddra from the Rjurik Highlands, the Magian and Lord of
    > Ghouls (el-Shigh├╝l) of Khinasi. Can anyone give me similar info in
    > comparison with Forgotten Realms' main continent?
    >
    > Alexander

    Out of curiosity, what do you guys think consititutes a "high level"
    character? To me, you are pretty much into "high level" around 10th-12th
    level. 9th might even be around the cut off point.

    If that's the case there really are a lot of high level characters in BR. Oh,
    they aren't coming out of the woodwork like FR, but there are still a lot of
    them.

    Gary

  3. #3
    Olesens
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    BR`s High Level Charaters

    "Gary V. Foss" wrote:

    > Alexander MacLeod wrote:
    >
    > > Andrew wrote:
    > >
    > > >I mean, a 14th level charachter is very, very hard to
    > > >find (as it should be according to the DMG).
    > >
    > > And I agree. I recently compiled a list of all the true mages on
    > > Cerilia (as provided in the TSR materials). Out of 154 wizards who can
    > > cast true magic, only three are archmages (18+ level). These are Grand
    > > Mistress Lleddra from the Rjurik Highlands, the Magian and Lord of
    > > Ghouls (el-Shigh├╝l) of Khinasi. Can anyone give me similar info in
    > > comparison with Forgotten Realms' main continent?
    > >
    > > Alexander
    >
    > Out of curiosity, what do you guys think consititutes a "high level"
    > character? To me, you are pretty much into "high level" around 10th-12th
    > level. 9th might even be around the cut off point.
    >
    > If that's the case there really are a lot of high level characters in BR. Oh,
    > they aren't coming out of the woodwork like FR, but there are still a lot of
    > them.

    IMO, levels 1-4 are "low level." 5-8 are "mid-level" 9-14 are "high level" and
    15-20 are really high level. 20+ is god or FR level. I feel that most
    adventurers fall into the low-mid level range. They either die before high level,
    or get tired of running around killing evil mosters and such. High level
    charachters not only show exceptional ability, but excetional determination. To
    reach 15-20th level, a charachter needs to either adventure 24/7 or have some way
    of extending his lifespan (for humans). Which brings up a question (two actually
    but #2 deserves its own thread): How do all those high level human mages live
    long enough to attain such levels. They could make potions of longevity and
    vigor, but I though those were priestily magical items? And how come there aren't
    priests of 39th level in FR? I'm getting a little off topic here so I think I'll
    stop.

    - -Andrew

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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    BR`s High Level Charaters

    Alexander MacLeod wrote:
    >
    > Andrew wrote:
    >
    > >I mean, a 14th level charachter is very, very hard to
    > >find (as it should be according to the DMG).
    >
    > And I agree. I recently compiled a list of all the true mages on
    > Cerilia (as provided in the TSR materials). Out of 154 wizards who can
    > cast true magic, only three are archmages (18+ level). These are Grand
    > Mistress Lleddra from the Rjurik Highlands, the Magian and Lord of
    > Ghouls (el-Shigh├╝l) of Khinasi. Can anyone give me similar info in
    > comparison with Forgotten Realms' main continent?
    >
    > Alexander

    Ignoring the fact that some dragons are arch-wizards. But we all know
    how dangerous dragons can be and should be.

  5. #5
    Gary V. Foss
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    BR`s High Level Charaters

    Tim Nutting wrote:

    > fighters with a "war wizard" that has two magic wands. The sergeants are
    > 6th level, and the captain is 8th level. The wizard can summon two to four
    > more true wizards of 4th+ level to their location via magic should they
    > encounter rough force. Not only that, but several Dragons have magic
    > weapons...
    >
    > Can any of you imagine the power such a force would have in a place like the
    > Giantdowns? Forget that, imagine them getting inside Blackrock Tower so
    > they can take over Roesone.... yikes!
    >
    > Tim Nutting

    I'm not disagreeing with you. The reason I prefer BR to FR is because of the
    more reasonable levels of characters. My point is that there really are fair
    number of high level characters running around in BR too. I don't think that's
    a bad thing at all. To me, the character levels in BR are pretty intelligently
    set up.

    BR does have it's high level guys of extreme power, however. The Magien and his
    troop of followers, for instance, are a pretty incredible force.

    Gary

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