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    Pieter A de Jong
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    Question regarding Wild Mages

    Elton Robb wrote:
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    > If a Wild Mage is transported to Aeberynis from Toril either by a spell
    > misshap or simply by walking, what happens to his magic?
    >
    > Could he still cast Wild Magic and/or True Magic? If he could, would he be
    > regarded as an Awnshegh (Wild Magic equals unpredictible effects)?
    >
    > If Ed or any of you can help me with these questions, please do.
    >
    Personally, I would just screw the guy over, not allowing him to cast
    true magic (including wild magic). That is of course, because I hate
    wild mages and find them extremely out of character in most fantasy
    settings.

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    Pieter A de Jong
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    University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

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    Question regarding Wild Mages

    If a Wild Mage is transported to Aeberynis from Toril either by a spell
    misshap or simply by walking, what happens to his magic?

    Could he still cast Wild Magic and/or True Magic? If he could, would he be
    regarded as an Awnshegh (Wild Magic equals unpredictible effects)?

    If Ed or any of you can help me with these questions, please do.

    — Elton Robb

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    Gary V. Foss
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    Question regarding Wild Mages

    Pieter A de Jong wrote:

    > Elton Robb wrote:
    > >
    > > If a Wild Mage is transported to Aeberynis from Toril either by a spell
    > > misshap or simply by walking, what happens to his magic?
    > >
    > > Could he still cast Wild Magic and/or True Magic? If he could, would he be
    > > regarded as an Awnshegh (Wild Magic equals unpredictible effects)?
    > >
    > > If Ed or any of you can help me with these questions, please do.
    > >
    > Personally, I would just screw the guy over, not allowing him to cast
    > true magic (including wild magic). That is of course, because I hate
    > wild mages and find them extremely out of character in most fantasy
    > settings.

    I'm with you on the wild magic issue. Aside from that, I'm also with you on not
    allowing a mage (or a bard for that matter) who came to Cerilia to cast "true"
    magic. I'd like to fine tune the question, however. If such a person were
    transported to Cerilia having "true" magic spells memorized, would he be unable
    to cast those spells at all or could he just not rememorize them after casting?

    In a similar manner, would a priest who came to Cerilia worhipping a god that is
    not represented on Aebrynis be able to memorize new spells?

    Gary

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    Kai Beste
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    Question regarding Wild Mages

    > I'm with you on the wild magic issue. Aside from that, I'm also with you on
    > not allowing a mage (or a bard for that matter) who came to Cerilia
    > to cast "true" magic. I'd like to fine tune the question, however.
    > If such a person were transported to Cerilia having "true" magic
    > spells memorized, would he be unable to cast those spells at all or
    > could he just not rememorize them after casting?

    I'd rule that he can't even cast his memorized true magic spells. He
    lacks the connection to mebhaighl that true mages have, and hence
    can't draw enough energy to power true magic spells. Maybe he could
    try, but channeling that much energy would probably burn him to
    cinders in an instant.
    Hey, you've just given me an idea. We could have mages from other
    worlds cast true magic (after all they know it), but since they can't
    draw mebhaighl they have to channel the power trough their bodies.
    This means the mage takes one point of damage *per spell level*. What
    do you think?

    > In a similar manner, would a priest who came to Cerilia worhipping
    > a god that is not represented on Aebrynis be able to memorize new
    > spells?

    If there is a god with a similar portfolio, he could get spells from
    that god. I think we can safely asume that gods with similar areas of
    control residing on different worlds would work together insofar as
    granting spells to each others followers *on the gods primary world
    of interest*. That means a priest of Tyr from Toril who gets to
    Cerilia could be granted spells by Haelyn.
    If there isn't any god with a similar portfolio, the priest is out of
    luck, unless he can get his diety interested in Cerilia, by gaining
    followers for his god (which might bring about the wrath of the
    cerilian faiths) or by something else.

    comments?

    Kai

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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    Question regarding Wild Mages

    Kai Beste wrote:
    >
    > > I'm with you on the wild magic issue. Aside from that, I'm also with you on
    > > not allowing a mage (or a bard for that matter) who came to Cerilia
    > > to cast "true" magic. I'd like to fine tune the question, however.
    > > If such a person were transported to Cerilia having "true" magic
    > > spells memorized, would he be unable to cast those spells at all or
    > > could he just not rememorize them after casting?
    >
    > I'd rule that he can't even cast his memorized true magic spells. He
    > lacks the connection to mebhaighl that true mages have, and hence
    > can't draw enough energy to power true magic spells. Maybe he could
    > try, but channeling that much energy would probably burn him to
    > cinders in an instant.
    > Hey, you've just given me an idea. We could have mages from other
    > worlds cast true magic (after all they know it), but since they can't
    > draw mebhaighl they have to channel the power trough their bodies.
    > This means the mage takes one point of damage *per spell level*. What
    > do you think?

    I think I prefer something along these lines then making spellcasting
    impossible. Especialy since I am using an outer planner mage at the
    moment who is hiding in Cerilia for an angry tanari. Though I might make
    it a bit more damaging then a mere 1 hp.

    > > In a similar manner, would a priest who came to Cerilia worhipping
    > > a god that is not represented on Aebrynis be able to memorize new
    > > spells?
    >
    > If there is a god with a similar portfolio, he could get spells from
    > that god. I think we can safely asume that gods with similar areas of
    > control residing on different worlds would work together insofar as
    > granting spells to each others followers *on the gods primary world
    > of interest*. That means a priest of Tyr from Toril who gets to
    > Cerilia could be granted spells by Haelyn.
    > If there isn't any god with a similar portfolio, the priest is out of
    > luck, unless he can get his diety interested in Cerilia, by gaining
    > followers for his god (which might bring about the wrath of the
    > cerilian faiths) or by something else.
    >
    > comments?

    The official rule on this is that the priest will only recieve 1st and
    2nd level spells until he is able to summon an avatar of his god and/or
    gets enough followers fot the deity in question to make the jump to this
    new crystal sphere. Even when the gods have simular portofolio's the
    priest will not get spells. Offcoarse, in my opinion if the priest is
    planning to stay longer it will be easier to change faith then it would
    normaly. Since I also DM planescape now and then I am planning to use
    the official rules.

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    Victor Vogt
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    Question regarding Wild Mages

    >Kai Beste wrote:
    >>
    >> > I'm with you on the wild magic issue. Aside from that, I'm also with
    you on
    >> > not allowing a mage (or a bard for that matter) who came to Cerilia
    >> > to cast "true" magic. I'd like to fine tune the question, however.
    >> > If such a person were transported to Cerilia having "true" magic
    >> > spells memorized, would he be unable to cast those spells at all or
    >> > could he just not rememorize them after casting?
    >>
    >> I'd rule that he can't even cast his memorized true magic spells. He
    >> lacks the connection to mebhaighl that true mages have, and hence
    >> can't draw enough energy to power true magic spells. Maybe he could
    >> try, but channeling that much energy would probably burn him to
    >> cinders in an instant.
    >> Hey, you've just given me an idea. We could have mages from other
    >> worlds cast true magic (after all they know it), but since they can't
    >> draw mebhaighl they have to channel the power trough their bodies.
    >> This means the mage takes one point of damage *per spell level*. What
    >> do you think?
    >
    >I think I prefer something along these lines then making spellcasting
    >impossible. Especialy since I am using an outer planner mage at the
    >moment who is hiding in Cerilia for an angry tanari. Though I might make
    >it a bit more damaging then a mere 1 hp.


    Depends on how you look at it and what world he/she came from really. For
    instance the Forgotten Realms wizards draw their power from the Weave. If a
    wizard is in another world does he/she have access to that weave or is the
    access to it just so weak that he/she can only cast low level spells. Of
    course in one of my own worlds a Taren Dark Mage pulls the energy from
    around and within him (plant life, human and animal life), but does uses so
    little he doesn't damage those around him. Ending up on Cerilia (which I
    wouldn't wish on anyone in that world!) he would still have the same ability
    and pulling from the mebhaighl would just make him/her more powerful.

    >> > In a similar manner, would a priest who came to Cerilia worhipping
    >> > a god that is not represented on Aebrynis be able to memorize new
    >> > spells?


    Well in the case of this one I would say no! A priest must be able to pray
    to his god and his god be able to hear him/her. Most dieties only have
    access to one world and even then it would be like yelling at your friend
    who is a thousand miles away. He/she isn't going to hear you! Well, unless
    you had a celular handy!

    >> If there is a god with a similar portfolio, he could get spells from
    >> that god. I think we can safely asume that gods with similar areas of
    >> control residing on different worlds would work together insofar as
    >> granting spells to each others followers *on the gods primary world
    >> of interest*. That means a priest of Tyr from Toril who gets to
    >> Cerilia could be granted spells by Haelyn.
    >> If there isn't any god with a similar portfolio, the priest is out of
    >> luck, unless he can get his diety interested in Cerilia, by gaining
    >> followers for his god (which might bring about the wrath of the
    >> cerilian faiths) or by something else.
    >>
    >> comments?


    >The official rule on this is that the priest will only recieve 1st and
    >2nd level spells until he is able to summon an avatar of his god and/or
    >gets enough followers fot the deity in question to make the jump to this
    >new crystal sphere. Even when the gods have simular portofolio's the
    >priest will not get spells. Offcoarse, in my opinion if the priest is
    >planning to stay longer it will be easier to change faith then it would
    >normaly. Since I also DM planescape now and then I am planning to use
    >the official rules.


    The only problem with that one is, that he/she would have to worship the new
    diety or the new diety would have some sort of pact with the priests old
    diety to allow him/her to cast spells. If not we are talking about a really
    quiet priest!

    VV>>'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
    >

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