>>As long as we're discussing the Magic Jar spell.... Couldn't a mage use
>>spell to possess a regent and then invest someone else in all his holdings?
>>Couldn't he also possess a scion and have bloodline investiture used to pass
>>the bloodline of the possessed person on to somone else?
> I believe it states somewhere in the rules (I'd look it up, but I've got
>to jet for class soon....) that an investiture cannot take place while the
>regent is 'under duress' or 'under some controlling influence'.. Only
>seems right, the land can giveth, and taketh away. So why can't it dicern
>the true 'nature' of the ceremony. Does this sound familiar to anyone, or
>am I just a wee bit off the rocker thie morning? :)

For bloodline investiture the BoP says:
If the donor isn't willing, he can either just be pierced through the heart
or he must coerce the donor into participating of his own free will through
Magical means or physical extortion.
Or he can proceed despite the donors misgivings, but then the donor can
make a save vs death. (if he succeeds 3 months of preparation has been in

For Divertiture the BoP says:
The donor can be charmed/convinced/forced, it doesn't matter
as long as the character takes the actions nessecary.

Siebharrin the Lich