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    Whalejudge@aol.co
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    The Gorgon`s Next Target

    The problem I see with expanding into the Giantdowns is that there's nothing
    THERE. Richer targets, in terms of gold, magic, and blood, are nearby. I
    could see an invasion of the downs, but only as a means of access to Dhoesone
    and the Rjurik heartlands. Until someone builds them up, I doubt the Gorgon
    would strike there.
    The most frightening target--especially as a conquered vassal--is Rohrmarch.
    That places the Gorgon's armies on the edge of Khinasi and gives him a port on
    the Gulf of Coeranys. The Chimaeron would fall quickly, and suddenly the
    Gorgon has a back door into Anuire.

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    BenandAmy
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    The Gorgon`s Next Target

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Whalejudge@aol.com
    To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - The Gorgon's Next Target


    >The problem I see with expanding into the Giantdowns is that there's
    nothing
    >THERE. Richer targets, in terms of gold, magic, and blood, are nearby. I
    >could see an invasion of the downs, but only as a means of access to
    Dhoesone
    >and the Rjurik heartlands. Until someone builds them up, I doubt the
    Gorgon
    >would strike there.
    >The most frightening target--especially as a conquered vassal--is
    Rohrmarch.
    >That places the Gorgon's armies on the edge of Khinasi and gives him a port
    on
    >the Gulf of Coeranys. The Chimaeron would fall quickly, and suddenly the
    >Gorgon has a back door into Anuire.


    Have you read Ian's story about Prince Oden? he he he ...

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    Kenneth Gauck
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    The Gorgon`s Next Target

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Whalejudge
    Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 2:26 AM


    >The most frightening target--especially as a conquered vassal--is
    Rohrmarch.
    >That places the Gorgon's armies on the edge of Khinasi and gives him a port
    on
    >the Gulf of Coeranys. The Chimaeron would fall quickly, and suddenly the
    >Gorgon has a back door into Anuire.


    I think Kiergard itself is vulnerable, let alone advancing out into
    Rohrmarch. By way of explanation I will offer a little more of the history
    of my campaign.

    After the Gorgon needed to rebuild what forces he lost in the Sielwode, he
    demanded additional dwarven production, since Mur-Kilad could not keep up.
    So he kidnapped some dwarven smiths from Baruk-Azhik. All the players and
    some of the regent's lieutenents advanced into Kiergard and rescued the
    captive dwarves in Fellport. From then on the Gorgon continued to send
    spies and occasionaly attempt to menace the dwarves in a variety of ways.
    Given the locatio n of my campaign, I decided to alter the time-line on the
    civil war in the Rohrmarch, I played out the printed backstory before the
    players eyes and ears. While menacing the players with the many issues I
    brought before them [guild complaints, clan complaints, nobles grumbling,
    Osoerde, the Gorgon, sundered dwarves in the Chimaeron asking for
    assistance, dwarven resistance to his human companions, the Orogs, evil
    Cults, saber rattling from Binsada] I happened to mention that the King of
    Rohrmarch was killed by a minor awnshegh called the Boar. At first they
    payed it only a little attention. However as more information trickled in
    about the two factions, and then an assasination of a guild master
    Frodenrich Buschassen, seemed to divid all of Rohrmarch into two hostile
    factions. It was now that one of the most influential clans really began to
    exert influence on the regent of Baruk-Azhik and swayed the dwarven realm
    behind the Prince of Oden and Kirk Warkinde. It certianly didn't hurt that
    one of the human companions of the Overthane was a priest of Kirken.

    After that players started hearing about a new force in the Thuringode,
    Brand Mournsinger. The campaign ended before I revealed to the players that
    Brand was the brother of one of the players PC's who had died earlier in the
    campaign. The trajectory was for Brand to lead a guerilla band to Esden
    (where a city still stood) and during a ruthless siege and storm, level the
    place and destroy the citadel (hence the ruins). The Gorgon's forces would
    then advance and Mournsinger would fall back to the Thuringode, but
    depending on the advice of the PC priest of Kirken to Kurt Warkinde, and the
    actions of the Overthane of Baruk-Azhik, some very interesting developments
    were possible, not to mention the remaining wildcards of the Vampire and
    Swordhawk.

    My perception is there are too many anti-Gorgon forces bordering Kiergard.
    Perhaps in a campaign where the elves remained dormant, and the dwarves were
    too busy dealing with the Orogs to come out and play... But I saw the
    begining of reverses for the Gorgon in Kiergard.

    Kenneth Gauck
    c558382@earthlink.net

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    The Gorgon`s Next Target

    Having the Gorgon run west-northwest through the Giantdowns or Rohrmarch
    would take him further away from his ultimate goal, the Imperial City. The
    Giantdowns also have no population for him to enslave as soldiers, or riches
    to fund his conquests. a better move would be to make a vassal of Ghuralli,
    and let him worry about that flank. Expanding south from Kiergard to
    Rohrmarch would lengthen the "back door" that may be vulnerable to
    Mournsinger's revolt.
    What I think he really wants is to move southwest to Avanil. At the
    moment, he holds a province of Tuarhievel, and now the (disinherited) Prince
    of same. Perhaps this is a prelude to "neutralizing" the sidhe and opening
    the Ruide River to his forces. All of those dwarven metal-workers that we
    hear are missing: are they making boat equipment and siege engines for a
    thrust down the Ruide to Cariele and Dhoesone? Both are politically weak,
    with quarrelling guilds to distract the rulers. By holding Cariele, he (or a
    minion) will have a pass through the Stonecrowns, granting the ability to
    spill onto the central plains of Anuire's Heartlands. While Dhoesone isn't
    "truly" an Anuirean realm, it does grant access to the Tael Firth, allowing
    naval activity along the Western Coast.
    Hmmm. This might move into my campaign someday. Especially if the White
    Witch is also fomenting dissension along the River for her own purposes.

    Lee.

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    DKEvermore@aol.co
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    The Gorgon`s Next Target

    In a message dated 10-24-1998 12:50:25 AM Central Standard Time,
    zero@wiredweb.com writes:

    > I had thought that the Giantdowns would make a good expansion, however that
    > would put him smack in the middle of 2 elven realms, and he isn't even
    > friendly
    > with the BAD elves, let alone the "Good" ones... Heh.. I've always played
    > that
    > he and Rhuobhe were the bitterest of enemies, even when they were on the
    > same
    > side.
    >

    According to some material I read (KotGD, I think), the nature of the downs,
    especially downs that exist just inside the Gorgon's Crown border prevent
    invasion. Apparently, they are "haunted" pretty bad and most of his troops
    don't want anything to do with messing with those things.

    Besides, what else is there of interest to the Gorgon in the Giant Downs?
    Hardly any Anuireans, no organized kingdoms of power. Mostly just unruly
    bands of really vicious monsters and a few Rjurik settlers.

    My campaign does take place in the Giant Downs, so this is how I've dealt with
    the question.

    - -DKE

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