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    Kenneth Gauck
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    Someone had previously suggested that the NAZI's might not have happened
    upon the final solution had the British not used camps in thye Boer war.
    Hence it changes the proximate influence upon the NAZI's. Tim, its like
    saying, so what if the Titanic wasn't sunk by torpedoes, 1400 still died
    when she went down. I think the iceberg is important, and so are the Soviet
    death camps of the Stalinist era.

    Kenneth Gauck
    c558382@earthlink.net

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim Nutting
    Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 5:29 AM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Gheallie Sidhe and Alignment OFFTOPIC


    >> The NAZI death camps were patterned on the Soviet camps, as was the
    >> technology of death employed.
    >
    >Interesting, but what does it change? If for some reason the Master Race
    >patterned their method of killing after the Sovs, so what? They still
    >attempted genocide.
    >
    >Tim Nutting

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    Gary V. Foss
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    Kenneth Gauck wrote:

    > Someone had previously suggested that the NAZI's might not have happened
    > upon the final solution had the British not used camps in thye Boer war.
    > Hence it changes the proximate influence upon the NAZI's. Tim, its like
    > saying, so what if the Titanic wasn't sunk by torpedoes, 1400 still died
    > when she went down. I think the iceberg is important, and so are the Soviet
    > death camps of the Stalinist era.

    Actually, my understanding was that Stalin's camps were more successful than
    Hitler's. I don't recall the numbers of people killed in Soviet Russia, (and he
    also had a while after WWII in order to keep them running) but I do remember
    reading that there were more people killed under Stalin than people killed under
    Hitler. In fact, both Hitler and Stalin have to take a backseat to Mao if my
    memory of who was the biggest earth-shatteringly murderous genocidal scumbag in
    human history is correct.

    I think Tim's point, however, was that crunching numbers like this doesn't
    really mean much to a debate regarding relative good or evil. I can't even
    really conceive of a million people dead, let alone the six million killed under
    the Nazis. Can you? The horror of that number is just too big to grasp as a
    whole. Such evil is beyond all rational comprehension. You have to break it up
    into different sized units in order to understand it. Perhaps all the stadiums
    in the United States in filled to capacity with the dead? At a certain point
    the mind just can't tally that many people. So the point is that such evil is
    beyond quantifying and, therefore, the means used to achieve it are not as
    important as its utter diabolical madness. Does it matter if the Nazi's got
    some of their ideas from the Armenian massacres, or from Stalin, or from the
    British? In the final analysis, I don't think it does. The means cannot
    justify the ends any more than the ends justify the means.

    Ah, hell. I kinda promised myself I'd stay out of these kinds of debates on the
    Message Board.... Oh, well.

    Gary

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    Tim Nutting
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    > Someone had previously suggested that the NAZI's might not have happened
    > upon the final solution had the British not used camps in thye Boer war.
    > Hence it changes the proximate influence upon the NAZI's. Tim, its like
    > saying, so what if the Titanic wasn't sunk by torpedoes, 1400 still died
    > when she went down. I think the iceberg is important, and so are the Soviet
    > death camps of the Stalinist era.

    I had no intention of trying to lessen the crimes of that bastard Josef Stalin.
    Please don't try and make it sound like that. My comment, since it wasn't
    clear enough, was to indicate that it mattered not in the least WHO the Nazi
    party patterned their death camps after. It doesn't make one stinking bit of
    difference at all. All that matters is that they did what they did, and every
    being that participated in the genocidal massacre deserves to burn in Hell.
    Dis might be a good spot, but then my "Inferno" recollection is a bit rusty.

    Furthermore, this discussion has no bearing on Birthright. Off-Topic leader or
    no, respond in private if you feel compelled to.

    Thank you

    Tim Nutting
    zero@wiredweb.com

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