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    This is an opportunity for anyone to participate in the d20 Atlas of Cerilia project by deciding on the classes and levels of Anuire's regents. I've included a sorted list of all the regent's in question (modified for the new scion classes).

    Obviously the changes introduced in 3rd edition D&D (as well as in the d20 Birthright Rulebook) mean that Anuire's regents are no longer as resticted in their choice of class and race and many may now decided to change to a new class, or multi-class, or even stay as they are. It is up to you to decide their new classes and levels, before I do...

    If you think a particular regent needs to change, cut and paste his or her information into a reply with the changes you think are needed and I'll consider them for inclusion in the Atlas as that regent's new official vital statistics. And remember, nothing is sacred, but I'm going to reject anything un-Birthright, so put away your copies of the FRCS.

    Note: You don't need to work out all their stats, just class and level. I'd prefer alignment and bloodline to remain as is, but will listen to any arguments for changes. Also, the prestige class list for the Atlas has not been finalised yet (I will be posting the various prestige classes at a later date for comment and alteration), so for now I'd prefer only prestige classes from the 3.5 DMG be considered.

    REGENT’S LIST (ANUIRE)
    • High Mage Aelies (LN male half-elf, Wiz 13/Sha 3/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 36])*
    • Carilon Alam (NE male Anuirean, Nbl 2/Scion 1 [Basaïa, major, 46])
    • Mourde Alondir (LN male Anuirean, Rog 1 [Masela, minor, 15])
    • Rogr Aglondier (NG male Anuirean, Wiz 3 [Masela, minor, 21])
    • Bannier Andien (LE male Anuirean, Rog 7 [Anduiras, minor, 21])
    • Torele Anviras (LE male Anuirean, Wiz 10/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 35])
    • James Ardannt (LG male Anuirean, Pal 5 [Reynir, minor, 16])
    • Hubaere Armiendin (LG male Anuirean, Clr 11 (Haelyn)/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 27)
    • Darien Avan (LN male Anuirean, Nbl 10/Scion 2 [An, great, 70])
    • Hand of Azrai (LN female Vos, Clr 10 (Azrai)/DisA 7)*
    • Linnias Baccaere (CN male Anuirean, Clr 7 (Cuiraécen) [Masela, minor, 17)
    • Mheallie Bireon (CE female Anuirean, Rog 8/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 37])
    • Aeric Boeruine (LN male Anuirean, Ftr 10/Nbl 2/Scion 1 [An, major, 60])
    • Arien Borthein (CN male Anuirean, Rog 3 [Re, minor, 14])
    • Günther Brandt (CG male Brecht, Clr 10 (Erik)/Scion 1 [Reynir, major, 32])
    • Lavalan Briesen (LG male Anuirean, Clr 5 (Haelyn)/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 30])
    • Caine (NG male Anuirean, Wiz 10/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 27])
    • Eluvie Cariele (CG female Anuirean, Rgr 2 [Masela, minor, 23])
    • The Chimaera (CE female awnshegh, Wiz 13 [Azrai, minor, 38])
    • Temias Coumain (LN male Anuirean, Clr 6 (Sarimie) [Brenna, minor, 24])
    • Maire Cwillmie (NG female Anuirean, Clr 6 (Nesirie) [Masela, minor, 12])
    • Assan ibn Daouta (LG male Khinasi, Pal 10/Scion 1 [Basaïa, major, 47]
    • Heirl Diem (LN male Anuirean, Nbl 7/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 42]
    • Daeric Dhoesone (CG male Anuirean, Wiz 3 [Anduiras, minor, 20])
    • Clumine Dhoesone (LG male Anuirean, Wiz 3/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 25)
    • Fhiele Dhoesone (N female half-elf, Rog 6/Scion 1 [Reynir, major, 46])
    • Thuriene Donalls (LG female Anuirean, Clr 6 (Haelyn)/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 30])
    • Adaere Doneim (CE male Anuirean, Rog 5 [Reynir, minor, 17])
    • Caliedhe Dosiere (LG male Anuirean, Mag 7/Nbl 13/Scion 2 [Anduiras, great, 64])
    • El-Hadid (LE male Khinasi, Rog 3 [Brenna, minor, 10])
    • Suris Enlien (NG female Anuirean, Clr 4 (Ruornil)/Scion 1 [Reynir, major, 32])
    • Eyeless One (CE unknown race, Wiz 9/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 35])
    • Razzik Fanggrabber (LE female goblin, Ftr 4 [Azrai, minor, 2])
    • Laela Flaertes (NG female half-elf, Brd 4 [Brenna, minor, 35])
    • Fhileraene (N male elf, Ftr 4/Wiz 6/Scion 2 [Reynir, great, 55])
    • Fhylie the Sword (CG female half-elf, Clr 6 (Cuiraécen) [Anduiras, minor, 18])
    • Siele Ghoried (LG male Anuirean, Rog 4 [Masela, minor, 21])
    • Entier Gladanil (NE male Anuirean, Nbl 5 [Anduiras, minor, 20])
    • The Gorgon (LE male awnshegh, Ftr 25/Wiz 16/Scion 2 [Azrai, true, 100+])
    • Tie’skar Graecher (LE male goblin, Ftr 7 [Azrai, minor, 24])
    • Grim Graybeard (LG male dwarf, Ftr 5/Clr 6 (Moradin)/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 38])
    • Medhlorie Haensen (LG female Anuirean, Clr 2 (Avani)/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 36])
    • Hermedhie (LN female Anuirean, Wiz 7/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 24])
    • Ghorien Hiriele (CE male Anuirean, Rog 9 [Anduiras, minor, 20])
    • Storm Holtson (CN male Rjurik, Rog 6/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 28])
    • Parnien Iniere (LN male Anuirean, Rog 2 [Brenna, minor, 15])
    • Innes (LN male Anuirean, Wiz 7 [Vorynn, minor, 19])
    • Isaelie (N female elf, Wiz 13/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 42])
    • Tugaere Issimane (CG male Anuirean, Clr 9 (Cuiraécen)/Scion 1 [An, major, 38])
    • Guilder Kalien (NE male half-elf, Rog 8/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 30])
    • Harald Khorien (NG male Anuirean, Wiz 4/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 33])
    • Elamien Lamier (LN female Anuirean, Rog 2 [Brenna, minor, 25])
    • Moerele Lannaman (CG male Anuirean, Rog 4/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 29])
    • Peak Mage (N female Anuirean, Wiz 8/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 32])
    • Swamp Mage (NE male Anuirean, Wiz 11 [Reynir, minor, 15])
    • 2nd Swamp Mage (NG female Anuirean, Wiz 10 [Vorynn, minor, 15])
    • Sword Mage (LE male Vos, Wiz 10/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 42])
    • Antia Maricoere (LG male Anuirean, Pal 6 [Anduiras, minor, 12])
    • Mhistecai (N female Anuirean, Wiz 6/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 45])
    • Daeric Mhoried (CG male Anuirean, Rgr 7/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 46])
    • Eriene Mierelen (NE female half-elf, Rog 7/Scion 1 [Basaïa, major, 41])
    • William Moergen (CG male Anuirean, Nbl 1/Rgr 4/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 35])
    • Rhobher Nichalier (LG male Anuirean, Clr 13 (Haelyn)/Scion 2 [Anduiras, great, 53])
    • Larra Nielems (NE female Anuirean, Clr 8 (Sarimie)/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 32])
    • Jaison Raenech (LE male Anuirean, Ftr 7/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 36])
    • Wincae Raenech (LE male Anuirean, Clr 5 (Cuiraécen)/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 33])
    • Rhuobhe (NE male awnshegh, Ftr 16/Wiz 13/Scion 2 [Azrai, true, 95])
    • Regien (CN male Anuirean, Wiz 6/Scion 1 [Vorynn, major, 30])
    • Ruarch Rockhammer (LG male dwarf, Clr 11 (Moradin)/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 41])
    • Marlae Roesone (N female Anuirean, Ftr 5/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 24])
    • Facellies Sloere (CG male Anuirean, Rog 2 [Anduiras, minor, 6])
    • Pyotr Selenie (CE male Vos, Bbn 1/Clr 3 (Belinik) [Anduiras, minor, 9])
    • Sarae Somellin (NE female Anuirean, Clr 4 (Eloéle) [Anduiras, minor, 28])
    • The Spider (CE male awnshegh, Ftr 13/Scion 2 [Azrai, true, 95])
    • Liliene Swordwraith (NG, female Anuirean, Rgr 10/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 37])
    • Gavin Tael (LE male Anuirean, Ftr 7/Nbl 2/Scion 1 [Reynir, major, 49])
    • Daffyd Tamaere (CG male Anuirean, Clr 7 (Nesirie) [Anduiras, minor, 17])
    • Orthien Tane (CN male Anuirean, Rog 3 [Anduiras, minor, 8])
    • Hyde Termonie (NG female Anuirean, Clr 4 (Sarimie) [Basaïa, minor, 4])
    • Gaelin Thuried (CN male Anuirean, Rog 4 [Brenna, minor, 12])
    • Godar Thurinson (LE male dwarf, Ftr 6 [Vorynn, tainted, 5])
    • Kral Two-Toes (LE male goblin, Clr 4 (Kartathok) [Azrai, minor, 10])
    • Phisaid Uriene (NG male Khinasi, Clr 4 (Nesirie) [Basaïa, minor, 14])
    • Arron Vaumel (NE male Anuirean, Rog 5 [Brenna, minor, 17])
    • Diirk Watershold (NG male dwarf, Rog 10 [Anduiras, minor, 29])
    * Already altered slightly, adding levels of prestige classes to be included in the Atlas (Shadow Mage and Disciple of Azrai).

    PS: This is not a must do overnight kind of thing, so you have a while to think about and discuss the choices before I close off this topic and finalised the regent information for the Atlas of Cerilia. But remember, this is your once chance to have any say on this matter, so if you feel strongly about changing any particualar regent, please post, otherwise the Atlas will include what I think it best, not what the community has decided on.

    Note: Regents listed in red have been changed due to suggestions below. These are not final changes, just listed here to make them easier to see. If you disagree with any of these changes, post below with your reasons why.
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    There are none with levels of noble? Even though that class is still being decided it is significant for at least some of the regents.

    Also since the use of prestige classes are purely optional (per the DMG pg 176) I would give none any levels in them, unless you include a varaint writeup listing them.
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    I believe that Ian posted the extant list, straight from the 2nd Ed, and added teh Scion levels to those with Major and Great Bloodlines.
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    Originally posted by Athos69@Aug 29 2004, 12:00 PM
    I believe that Ian posted the extant list, straight from the 2nd Ed, and added teh Scion levels to those with Major and Great Bloodlines.
    Not exactly true.

    He added in new "prestige class" levels for High Mage Aelies and Hand of Azrai.
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    Assan Ibn Dauto has a major bloodline, but no scion level
    Medhlorie Haensen has a major bloodline, but no scion level
    Tugaere Issimane has major bloodline, but no scion leve

    just a few minor mistakes
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    Here's a few major changes I would like to see re. Nobles:

    Darien Avan (LN male Anuirean, Nob 10/Scion 2 [An, great, 70])

    Aeric Boeruine (LN male Anuirean, Nob 2/ Ftr 10/Scion 1 [An, major, 60])

    Heirl Diem (LN male Anuirean, Nob 7/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 42]

    Carilon Alam (NE male Anuirean, Nob 2/Scion 1 [Basaïa, major, 46])

    Eluvie Cariele (CG female Anuirean, Rgr 2 [Masela, minor, 23])

    Gavin Tael (LE male Anuirean, Nob 2/Ftr 8/Scion 1 [Reynir, major, 49])

    Ghorien Hiriele (CE male Anuirean, Rog 9 [Anduiras, minor, 20])

    William Moergen (CG male Anuirean, Nob 1/Rgr 4/Scion 1 [Anduiras, major, 35])

    Entier Gladanil (NE male Anuirean, Nob 5 [Anduiras, minor, 20])

    Guilder Kalien (NE male half-elf, Rog 8/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 30])

    A few of these characters, given their general character histories and performance records, seem like they deserve higher levels than presented in RoE. Certainly Ghorien Hiriele, given his supposed "trade magic" abilities and extensive domain, would seem to be personally very capable as a guild regent (high enough to have Master Merchant and Master Administrator feats, for example). Likewise, Guilder Kalien is another long-standing manipulator with quite a colorful (and successful) history - something that should be reflected in his competence and levels. It's no mean feat keeping a single province domain intact!

    Likewise, a few of these PC's could use at least a few levels of Noble to indicate their courtly upbringing and a decent range of base social skills. Aeric Boeruine, for instance, seems to have some degree of social/political skills even if he is mainly focused as a warrior-king archetype. Darien Avan, otoh, should be the consumate politician, but not really the equal of Boeruine on the battlefield. Hierl Diem, too, is another character who seems far better suited as a pure Noble - descended from a long line of proud nobles, infamous for his schemes and intrigue and certainly vested with a typically aristocratic attitude toward his "rightful" lands. A perfect Noble character if there ever was one! Entier Gladanil, too, the stuffed-up noble prig, makes an excellent courtier-type Noble.

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    Originally posted by irdeggman@Aug 30 2004, 02:27 AM
    There are none with levels of noble? Even though that class is still being decided it is significant for at least some of the regents.

    Also since the use of prestige classes are purely optional (per the DMG pg 176) I would give none any levels in them, unless you include a varaint writeup listing them.
    As Athos noted, I haven't made changes to include noble levels yet as I'm waiting to see what everyone comes up with. Of course, I have my preferences as to which regent should have noble levels, but as this is an opportunity for everyone else to suggest changes they would like, I'm staying out of making suggestions for now.

    Oh, and the Atlas will NOT contain any option or variant rules, just one listing per regent, so NPC will either start with levels in a prestige classes or not, they won't do both. I'm assuming that the events detailed in The Shadow Stone novel took place though, so that is the correct information for Aelies, he has a few levels of Shadow Mage as a result of the corruption of his magic after his contact with the shadow stone all those years ago. However, as none of the prestige classes have been released yet, I guess the point it moot as no one can use something that does not exist.
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    Caliedhe Dosiere (LG male Anuirean, Ftr 7/Wiz 13/Scion 2 [Anduiras, great, 64])

    I'd make him Scion 2/Mag7/Noble 13 or something along those lines. IMO the only reason he had fighter levels was so he could gain RP from Law holdings - mostly likely this won't be a prerequisite anymore since it looks like RP gaining will be skill based instead and a noble will end up with the appropriate skills to work on this.

    Magician vice wizard because he had no sources in 2nd ed (hence no realm spells), in 3.5 magician won't be limited to non-blooded only, he was listed as a diviner in 2nd ed (forbidden for wizards per the BRRB rules by the way, but it makes sense for him to be focused on divination spells (the expertise of magicians regardless of how the class ends up).
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    Hi. For those who don't know me, I am the DM of the recently completed Anuire in Flames. I prefer to keep the power creep down to a minimum, keeping as close to the original RoE as possible. Now on to the main event:

    Carilon Alam (NE male Anuirean, Nbl 2/Scion 1 [Basaïa, major, 46])

    I have him as N5/Sc1. 3rd level seems a tad low considering the terrible position he's in geographically.

    Hand of Azrai (LN female Vos, Clr 10 (Azrai)/DisA 7)*

    Perhaps she should be evil...say LE or NE

    Eluvie Cariele (CG female Anuirean, Rgr 2 [Masela, minor, 23])

    Should be N2 or N3 since the Coeranys court is well known as a centre of courtly learning.

    Caliedhe Dosiere (LG male Anuirean, Mag 7/Nbl 13/Scion 2 [Anduiras, great, 64])

    I think I like CD more as a Wizard than a Magician. Perhaps he should be Sc2/W10/N10?

    Laela Flaertes (NG female half-elf, Brd 4 [Brenna, minor, 35])

    I think N4 would be better.

    Entier Gladanil (NE male Anuirean, Nbl 5 [Anduiras, minor, 20])

    I'm thinking he should be Rg2/N2

    Ghorien Hiriele (CE male Anuirean, Rog 9 [Anduiras, minor, 20])

    Why so high? He needs only be 6th level to take the Master feats. Perhaps Rg 7 might be more in order.

    Guilder Kalien (NE male half-elf, Rog 8/Scion 1 [Brenna, major, 30])

    Ditto. Perhaps Rg5/Sc1.
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    Good to see you here Shiro... I know we've had many (private) discussions on this topic in the past, but I have a general set of guidelines I would apply to the 2E class/level combos to convert them to BRCS 3.5

    If the family is dynastic, and the Regent is likely to have been raised as a Noble, we can replace about 1/2 or more of the levels of Fighter or Thief with Noble levels. The difficulty comes in determining which families are dynastic.
    Alam, Avan, Boeruine, Careile, Diem, Dosiere, Flaertes, Mhoried, Mierelien, Moergan, and Tael are all examples of lines that would have produced Nobles in the current generation. I leave the Swordwraith line out because she is primarily a Ranger who came out of the Erebannien to take out the despot and ignore Roesone, since it is only a 3rd or 4th generation ruling family, and still would have primarily pure military training in the mould of Daen Roesone.

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