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    Farmed but not Populated

    Tim Nutting wrote:

    > Note however that 5/0 is not the max province level. This has been one of
    > the great misperceptions about the provincial rating system in BR. The
    > second number is merely the potential source, and they type of terrain sets
    > that. The type of terrain also sets the maximum height of the first number
    > so (province level/potential source) is the way of looking at it.
    >

    Thanks Tim! Actually, I realized my mistake immediately after I sent my
    question. I have been playing BR for about 3 months now, and always thought
    province level & magic potential were tied together (Like a teeter totter).
    The revelation that prov level & magic source were actually separate occurred
    to me last night. I must say, this changes the entire game for me now. (Seems
    to make a little more sense too.) :)

    > You need to define dense population. Levels 1-3 are sparse to moderate
    > population, 4-6 are moderate increasing upward, 7-9 are densely populated,
    > and 10 is packed (like Imperial City)
    >

    Hmmm... failed to realize this. If the area in question is a plains region
    (source 6 IIRC), is it possible to settle the area (with farmland not
    population) and still deplete the source level while only having a population
    level of 1 - 3?If the province is entirely devoted to farming, it seems to me
    that the source level will drop (because of all the cultivation) while the
    population (prov level) remains relatively low. (Farms take up a lot of land).

    > Hope that helps
    >

    It does indeed, thanks!

    Keith


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    DKEvermore@aol.co
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    Farmed but not Populated

    In a message dated 7/25/98 11:10:54 PM, you wrote:

    >Hey guys, O.K., say you have a province roughly the size of Alklund
    >(4/1- Rohrmarch). Now, if I want it to be completely tamed & farmed,
    >it's a level 5/0 right. But, what if I want the region to be totally
    >farmed, but not densely populated. What level is it then?
    >(I'm thinking of it as an agricultural region which exports most of it's
    >crops to other more densely populated regions.)

    I think that in terms of the technology available to them here, completely
    tamed & farmed = populated. Remember that these people cannot reasonably farm
    nearly as much as they do with modern technology. If there are farms covering
    the province, then that province NEEDS a high population to maintain it (high
    population being relative to Cerilia).

    - -DKE

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    brenda santer
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    Farmed but not Populated

    >Tim Nutting wrote:
    >
    >> Note however that 5/0 is not the max province level. This has been one of
    >> the great misperceptions about the provincial rating system in BR. The
    >> second number is merely the potential source, and they type of terrain sets
    >> that. The type of terrain also sets the maximum height of the first number
    >> so (province level/potential source) is the way of looking at it.
    >>
    >
    >Thanks Tim! Actually, I realized my mistake immediately after I sent my
    >question. I have been playing BR for about 3 months now, and always thought
    >province level & magic potential were tied together (Like a teeter totter).
    >The revelation that prov level & magic source were actually separate occurred
    >to me last night. I must say, this changes the entire game for me now.
    >(Seems
    >to make a little more sense too.) :)

    Wow! Slow down a bit here. Your original idea of province and magic potential
    being inversely related (your teeter totter idea) is perfectly valid. That
    is the case. However once the source potential drops to zero, it can go no
    lower while the provincial population can continue to rise. So the
    progresssion for a plains province is 0/5, 1/4, 2/3, 3/2, 4/1, 5/0 but
    after that it is 6/0. 7/0 etc. They are NOT separate as you concluded above.



    >
    >> You need to define dense population. Levels 1-3 are sparse to moderate
    >> population, 4-6 are moderate increasing upward, 7-9 are densely populated,
    >> and 10 is packed (like Imperial City)
    >>
    >
    >Hmmm... failed to realize this. If the area in question is a plains region
    >(source 6 IIRC), is it possible to settle the area (with farmland not
    >population) and still deplete the source level while only having a population
    >level of 1 - 3?If the province is entirely devoted to farming, it seems to me
    >that the source level will drop (because of all the cultivation) while the
    >population (prov level) remains relatively low. (Farms take up a lot of
    >land).
    >
    >> Hope that helps
    >>
    >
    >It does indeed, thanks!
    >
    >Keith

    see my remarks above about the relationship of maic potential and
    population level. Also as another list member has pointed out, the kind of
    farming that is done in this type of civilization is very labour intensive.
    These are not the huge farms of the modern central plains in Canada and the
    US. They are small and require the emtire family to work them. To
    completely farm an entire province does require a lot of people. Whether
    the population is all in one or two large cities or spread across the
    entire province, the effect of that number of people is the same. Also if
    you are interested in examples of the population level in provinces of
    various levels, refer to the rulebook on page 33 to 34. If you unhinge the
    realtionship between magic potential and population level, you open the
    door for other effects that can unbalance a game very quickly.


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