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07-14-1998, 04:48 PM #1Clayton F. HintonGuest
Tuarheivel: the impregnable fortre
>>The reason why it is stupid is because putting a human in charge of the
>>kingdom--all ready having trouble with rogue Ghaellie Sidhe attacks on human
>>travellers, is the most divisive, and de-stabilizing thing he could have
>>This weakens the elven nation as a whole and, IMO would make it MORE
>>vulnerable to Gorgon attacks, not less.
I suppose this means you believe the elves could withstand an assault by
the Gorgon without assistance, if only they are not divided amongst
themselves? Yet another hillarious assertation by the "I should have been
an elf" club.
>>Don't get me wrong--I really like the Player's Secrets of Tuarhievel, I just
>>did not agree with the idea he would invest the kingdom and his power into a
huh. And how, exactly, would the elves ever have a chance of coming out on
the winning side against the Gorgon in the future? I'm not intimately
familiar with the story surrounding all this, but it seems to me the only
way the elves of Tuarheivel are ever going to have security against the
Gorgon is if they gain allies elsewhere. I wonder where those allies would
be? A human regent could do much to bridge the gap between the ancient
elven nation and human ones nearby, particularly this human regent.
>Nicely stated DKevermore. I awaited the Player's Secrets of Tuarhievel with
>bated breath. The Cerilian elves are interesting and different from their
>counterparts in other TSR worlds. I am also an elf-lover.
>impresion of the Tuarhievel book was shock and then horror.
>I agree with
>you fully on this.
>This action is both divisive and destabilizing. It would be no less
>devastating to Tuarhievel than a Gorgon attack would be.
Um, losing an entire realm of elves is better than accepting a human regent
for a few years? Hmm....oookay.
>At least such an
>attack would bring the elves together against a common foe.
Why, so they could all die?
>So you have Tuarhievel ruled by a human, a human who is not a spellcaster,
>who is supposed to turn over the bloodline to their child at the
>appropriate time IF either of them lives that long. Whether you follow the
>timeline in the Tuarhievel sourcebook which has Fhileraene ruling for only
>a short time, or you follow Simon Hawk's timeline in Iron Throne which has
>Fhilerane ruling when Michael Roele is a child, Fhileraene is just not that
Luckily he's not even more so.
>I suppose it does give Tuarhievel an automatic tie to Mhoried in a way
>since Savane is the Mhor's niece. That could be helpful to a DM who can't
>come up with any other way to have the ruler of Tuarhievel have any reason
>to deal with the other players. I still think it is a HUGE stretch.
>As for it being an act of desperation, I say not likely. Consider this: the
>Gorgon says he will attack unless Fhileraene hands himself over to him. I
>have a few problems with that.
>1) once he has Fhileraene what is to keep him from attacking anyway?
Nothing. However, the Gorgon does tend to keep his word, but almost never
>2)a Tuarhievel without an elven ruler is even weaker and more defenseless
>than before, an easier target for old Split-Hooves than before. SO
>Fhileraene is making their position worse by delivering himself to the
>Gorgon not ensuring anyone's safety.
I disagree, but I doubt you'd listen to logic when discussing the sacred,
superior, ancient Elven nation.
>3)Why would the Gorgon bother warning them of his attack, why not just go
>ahead and attack? Unless he has so many petty squabbles on his hands with
>his various puppet states that his attention is so divided than he cannot
>afford an allout attack on Tuarhievel at this time but wishes to make it
>look like he does. In that case, call his bluff. What's to lose. He is
>alost guaranteeed to atack anyway.This way you at least have an experienced
>ELVEN magic-using ruler in charge of the realm.
No, he's NOT guaranteed to attack. In fact, he's guaranteed NOT to. He
has plenty of other targets, and now that he's agreed not to do it he can
just hit somewhere else. How else would Tuarheivel survive? Fight
>Bottom line is this: If the Gorgon is planning to attack, he will anyway no
>matter what Fhileraene does, so giving Tuarhievel the strongest position
>would require Fhileraene to remain as ruler of Tuarhievel. There is
>absolutely nothing that ensures Tuarhievel's safety by giving in to the
The Gorgon decides the fate of his neigbors, until they unite against him.
Tuarheivel's fate is not in their own hands, unless you put them on the
verge of conquering all of Anuire back by giving them hundreds of 30+ level
spellcasters and five times as many troops, with double stats. Laugh.
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