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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    > Atleast I hope that TSR will change so much that they will adopt the
    > metric system for 3rd edition.

    I'd be so relieved if they did. Sure, I know that one pound is circa
    0.4536 kilograms and that an inch is approximately 2.54 cm, and that a
    foot and a yard are about 30.48 cm and 91.44 respectively, but it's just
    not the same...

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    - -----Original Message-----
    From: the Falcon
    To: birthright@mpgn.com
    Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:37 AM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they come from?


    >> Atleast I hope that TSR will change so much that they will adopt the
    >> metric system for 3rd edition.
    >
    >I'd be so relieved if they did. Sure, I know that one pound is circa
    >0.4536 kilograms and that an inch is approximately 2.54 cm, and that a
    >foot and a yard are about 30.48 cm and 91.44 respectively, but it's just
    >not the same...


    Why would they change to a modern system if we're still talking about the
    medieval period? The first country to adopt the metric system in RL was
    France, shortly after the Revolution in 1789. The medieval period, which I
    ASSUME to be the historical focus of fantasy games, ended in 1492 with the
    discovery of the New World. The Renaissance is also the focus of many
    campaigns; this period ended in what, the middle of the 1600's? TSR would
    create a gross anachronism if they were to do so. (As well as confusing
    Americans such as myself, who form the larger part of their customer base
    (no offense to the Europeans on this list . . .)) The metric system is a
    scientific system, plain and simple. The Middle Ages and Renaissance were
    not eras of modern science.

    Balthasar

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    e.piir wrote:
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    > >At least in norway, elves aren't big in mythology..
    > >We have a few kinda-like-small-elves running around near christmas to eat
    > >some kind of rice meal we put outside our doors.
    >
    > I think that christmas and Scandinavian mythology are different
    > things.

    Aren't we talking about brownies here? In the Netherlands we call all
    the faeries "elf-jes" and we do not make much difference between all the
    different kinds.

    Pieter Sleijpen

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    Pieter Sleijpen
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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    the Falcon wrote:
    >
    > > Atleast I hope that TSR will change so much that they will adopt the
    > > metric system for 3rd edition.
    >
    > I'd be so relieved if they did. Sure, I know that one pound is circa
    > 0.4536 kilograms and that an inch is approximately 2.54 cm, and that a
    > foot and a yard are about 30.48 cm and 91.44 respectively, but it's just
    > not the same...
    >

    Well, I can work with inches, feet and yards. It is Fahrenheit that
    poses larger problems, since it is not that easy to change into Celcius.
    Not to mention that I lack absolutely any feeling about how hot 70
    degrees Fahrenheit is.

    Pieter Sleijpen

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    > Well, I can work with inches, feet and yards. It is Fahrenheit that
    > poses larger problems, since it is not that easy to change into Celcius.
    > Not to mention that I lack absolutely any feeling about how hot 70
    > degrees Fahrenheit is.

    Oh, I couldn't agree more. They can keep with their pounds, stones,
    inches, feet and yards, for all I care. Heck, they can stick with all of
    their different miles as well, if they really need to. But if they could
    just please switch to Celcius, cause that's really the one that always
    proves to be a major headache. Not only is conversion from Fahrenheit to
    Celcius a complete pain the butt, the whole Fahrenheit system also seems
    highly illogical to me. I mean, 0 degrees Celcius is when water freezes
    and 100 degrees Celcius is when it boils, but with Fahrenheit I really
    haven't got a clue. Thank you for reminding me, Pieter (Sleijpen, that
    is).

    - the Falcon

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    > Aren't we talking about brownies here? In the Netherlands we call all
    > the faeries "elf-jes" and we do not make much difference between all the
    > different kinds.

    Yeah heck, it's all just 'elfjes' (literally: little elves) and
    'kabouters' (gnomes, brownies, leprechauns, what have you; just dump em
    together) around here. Who can tell the difference, anyways, between
    creatures you've never even seen? :)

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    In a message dated 2/25/99 3:03:54 PM Central Standard Time,
    brandes@gateway.net writes:

    > The metric system is a
    > scientific system, plain and simple. The Middle Ages and Renaissance were
    > not eras of modern science.
    >
    > Balthasar

    Your statement is correct, of course. But, I would point out that Birthright
    is not in any way, shape or form, historical. It has historical elements, but
    remains a work of fiction.

    Using a metric system may increase usability. This would mean more
    roleplayers. It could also mean that it would be easier for metric people to
    visualize and imagine the make-believe world of Birthright.

    Just some notes,
    DKE

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Pieter Sleijpen
    To: birthright@mpgn.com
    Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 10:39 AM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they come from?


    >the Falcon wrote:
    >>
    >> > Atleast I hope that TSR will change so much that they will adopt the
    >> > metric system for 3rd edition.
    >>
    >> I'd be so relieved if they did. Sure, I know that one pound is circa
    >> 0.4536 kilograms and that an inch is approximately 2.54 cm, and that a
    >> foot and a yard are about 30.48 cm and 91.44 respectively, but it's just
    >> not the same...
    >>
    >
    >Well, I can work with inches, feet and yards. It is Fahrenheit that
    >poses larger problems, since it is not that easy to change into Celcius.
    >Not to mention that I lack absolutely any feeling about how hot 70
    >degrees Fahrenheit is.
    >
    >Pieter Sleijpen
    >
    Any good Georgian (such as myself) will tell you that 70 F is a gift from
    God in the summer and the average for spring and fall. That doesn't help
    you, though . . .
    This might help: On the C scale, water is liquid from 0 to 100 degrees.
    Fahrenheit, water is liquid from 32 to 212. So try to shift a 100 pt. scale
    onto a 180 pt scale . . . 70 degrees is warm room temperature.
    Brandes

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    >> The metric system is a
    >> scientific system, plain and simple. The Middle Ages and Renaissance
    were
    >> not eras of modern science.
    >>
    >> Balthasar
    >
    >Your statement is correct, of course. But, I would point out that
    Birthright
    >is not in any way, shape or form, historical. It has historical elements,
    but
    >remains a work of fiction.
    >
    >Using a metric system may increase usability. This would mean more
    >roleplayers. It could also mean that it would be easier for metric people
    to
    >visualize and imagine the make-believe world of Birthright.
    >
    >Just some notes,
    >DKE


    Okay, yeah, it would increase usability for Canadians, Europeans, and anyone
    else who isn't American. I just bet, though, that TSR sells more within the
    US than outside. Converting to metric (as per the new Alternity system,
    which really is a domain of science) would make the things as hard for
    American role-players as they are right now for people who wish they were
    American.

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    [BIRTHRIGHT] -Nordic elves? Where did they com

    >Not to mention that I lack absolutely any feeling about how hot 70
    >degrees Fahrenheit is.

    Room tempreture. My home thermostat is set to 70 degrees.

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