Shaun Hodgson wrote:

> I don't know if this has been discussed recently, but what do people
> think about being able to redefine the borders of a province. I was
> looking at the map of Khinasi and the provinces of Northern Black
> Spear Lands that border Rhuannach.
> What would happen if the Elves decided to take back the forest and had
> units stationed along the forest border of the two most eastern
> provinces. The Elves don't want to fight for the plains, just the
> forest. Is it possible to redraw the provinces with a border running
> along the edge of the forest so that you end up with a completely
> forested province, and one that contains plains and hills. And if you
> can do this, how do you split the province ratings?(Keeping in mind
> that most non-Elven provinces tend not to have large population
> centres surrounded by forest when there is a plain to build on.)
> PS I know this posting also involves an elven Nation, but I'm sure
> other examples exist.

I don't have any problem with redrawing the province maps. If your going to do
so, however, you should probably consider whether it will change the province
levels, source holdings, etc. of the provinces effected. In fact, I think that
should be the determining factor. A couple of for instances:

If Roesone were to take over the end of the Erebannien that sticks into Ilien
province and add that land to the Abbatuor province it would probably not
change the source level, but might add one point to Abbatuor's province level
and take a point away from Ilien's.

The Wilder's Gorge province could probably be redrawn so that it took up the
forested section in eastern Portage, while sacrificing some of the plains to
that province.. That might actually raise the source holding for Wilder's
Gorge, while Portage would lose some.

The only other thing I would say about modifying the map is that if you are
going to change the borders, you should keep in mind that there are no "four
corner" borders (or, at least, they've tried not to make any) so you should
take pains to make sure borders don't meet in the same way.

Another thing: Such redistribution should probably take an investiture spell to
accomplish. Beyond being political borders, they are also tied up in
mebhaighl, so it should take some sort of realm magic to redistribute things.

On a similar note: What do you guys think about splitting up a province?
Several of them seem unusually big. What if you conquered Spiderfell? That
province is at least twice the size of a typical province. The same might be
said for Torien's Watch. If a regent were to settle Caelcorwynn shouldn't it
be two provinces? Why not split them up?