Paladin:Synopsis

[Trizt]

On 18-Jun-98, The Olesens (olesens@bellatlantic.net) wrote about Re:
[BIRTHRIGHT] - Paladin:Synopsis:

- ->On Earth the question of "is there a god?" is not as proven (if proven
- ->at all) as it is in Birthright (where all important people are miniature
- ->gods and it was only 2,000 years ago that the gods were actually seen in
- ->person).

- ->In most fantasy worlds you know that if you're bad a bolt of lightning
- ->will strike you down but in the real world the god(s) aren't as
- ->promiment (if existant at all) as in fantasy worlds

Even as I agree with you, I think you have missed a major part, during those
"darker" times the xian church was quite powerful in europe, the used every
opertunity to surpress the population (many time the priest belived in their
own lies), every bad thing which happened either was said to be a punishment
from god or the doings of the devil. As there was no way at the time to prove
thing otherway the population belived that the priest said was true. That is
as good proof of that god exists as a person who can heal another by laying
hands on her.
Don't forget that religous people sees evidence everywhere of their god/gods
existence, as a good exapmle is that people in the states belived that an ill
washed window was a sign that "holy" mary showed her self for them.
Somehow deply religous people can do really crule things and still think that
they didn't do anything wrong, butin most RPG's there are gods who watches
their worshipers and punish them who do wrong even if they self belive they
didn't anything wrong.

//Trizt of Ward^RITE

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[Arhes]

Trizt ha scritto:

> Even as I agree with you, I think you have missed a major part, during those
> "darker" times the xian church was quite powerful in europe, the used every
> opertunity to surpress the population (many time the priest belived in their
> own lies), every bad thing which happened either was said to be a punishment
> from god or the doings of the devil. As there was no way at the time to prove
> thing otherway the population belived that the priest said was true. That is
> as good proof of that god exists as a person who can heal another by laying
> hands on her.
> Don't forget that religous people sees evidence everywhere of their god/gods
> existence, as a good exapmle is that people in the states belived that an ill
> washed window was a sign that "holy" mary showed her self for them.
> Somehow deply religous people can do really crule things and still think that
> they didn't do anything wrong, butin most RPG's there are gods who watches
> their worshipers and punish them who do wrong even if they self belive they
> didn't anything wrong.

Yes, you know you're right, but this has sense in true reality, in an ad&d
campaign you got alignment, who really don't exist in reality. For a paladin
alignemtn is even more important. Yes, if a paladin was really, really sure of
doing a good thing then he can do an evil act, but don't forget, a paladin may
even not do an evil or even ambiguos act for a great good end. Ways cannot be
ignored for a paladin, so you know, a paladin may want to accomplish something bad
belivieng is good, but never with evil ways.

Arhes
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Poi che dormono i vivi; arma le spente
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Questo secol di fango o vita agogni
E sorga ad atti illustri, o si vergogni.
G.L.

[kirbyvalor@juno.com (Bre]

>From the Player's Handbook on pg 46:

"The character's alignment is a guide to his basic moral and ethical
attitudes toward others, society, good, evil, and the forces of the
universe in general. Use the chosen alignment as a guide to provide a
clearer idea of how the character will handle moral dilemmas. Always
consider aligment as a tool, not a straitjacket that restricts the
character. Although aligmnet defines general attitudes, it certainly
doesn't prevent a character from changing his beliefs, acting
irrationally, or behaving out of character."

from pag. 47 (Playing the Character's Alignment):

"Remember, selecting an alignment is a way of saying 'My character is
going to act like a person who believes this.'"

It goes on to mention that changing alignment costs experience, but
doesn't say how much. I think that alignment should be a more strict
guide than "play it loosely," because in this FANTASY game, it is part
of making up a character. People generally have an alignment already in
their head when they create a character and this choice should be made
easily. Alignments are easily played, but when it comes to a tough moral
decision that the player is having a tough time thinking about, the
character shouldn't be allowed to do whatever, but should go with how the
alignment looks at it.
In my opinion, Superman is Lawful Good, but Batman is Chaotic Good,
with a lawful tendancy, after all, he does a lot of breaking in to other
people's places.

Take care,
Kirby

Valor above all
Hey, McCloud, get off me ewe!

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[veryfastperson@juno.com]

>is part of making up a character. People generally have an alignment
>already in their head when they create a character and this choice
>should be made easily. Alignments are easily played, but when it
>comes to a tough moral decision that the player is having a tough time
>thinking about, the character shouldn't be allowed to do whatever, but
>should go with how the alignment looks at it.

Yeah, but 99% of everyone alignment (in their head) would be Chaotic
Neutral ;)
they might fool themselves into thinking they're lawful good, but it's
actually Chaotic Neutral
("what do you mean my paladin can't charage this petty thief because of
my alignment?? he stole from me, and my god tells me to uphold the law!
he broke the law!") but with that example, it's the law that's subject to
controversy, but that's a whole nother topic that we could discuss in
length for years and not get anywhere :)

> In my opinion, Superman is Lawful Good, but Batman is Chaotic
>Good, with a lawful tendancy, after all, he does a lot of breaking in
>to other people's places.

IMHO, superman and batman would be Chaotic Neutral, with lot's of good
tendencies :)

- -Erik

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