Sea Elves

[KirbyRanma@aol.co]

In a message dated 98-06-11 14:28:11 EDT, zero@wiredweb.com writes:

>

Here here! I agree with this statement tons and tons! (That's a lot you
know.) On a side, I'd like to say I think Ravenloft is unique like the above
two mentioned, but by it's definition it can't really "divorce" itself from
the rest of the AD&D lines. (Looking around I think I see people picking up
fruit to throw at me, so I'll get back on topic :-)



Ditto. I like the fact that if you encounter an elf, the chances are
about as likely the elf will want to hack you to pieces as that the elf may be
friendly. Who needs drow? Who needs sea elves? Let us march across the
Imperial City and chant "No more elves! No more elves! Keep the Cerilian
one's to themselves!" Yea! Woohoo! Hip hip... who wants me to stop? :-(

Take care all,
Kirby
"I can understand why you threw the tomatoes, but what I can't understand is
why you brought them in the first place." - Some funny guy whose name escapes
me.

[craig@finance.econ.usyd.]

At 05:54 AM 11/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:28:21 EDT Daskinor@aol.com writes:
>>In a message dated 98-06-10 17:13:56 EDT, olesens writes:
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>But it says somewhere, I think in the Monstrous Manual, that Sea Elves
>>can't
>>cast wizardly magic.
>>
>>Although the reason for this is believed to have something to do with
>>drow.
>>SO... it could be said that since there are no drow (or are there???
>>*sinister music* ), then they can cast.
>>
>>I don't know, just a thought. What do you think?
>>
>>Nathan
>
>I don't think there are drow, even if the Warlock accessory says so. I
>look at them more as dark elves who live underground, not the drow we all
>discovered in FR.
>
>Benjamin
>
I agree, the dark elves presented in the monstrous compendium (and thrashed
out in FR) are fundamentally linked to Lolth (Lloth). This is not possible
in the BR campaign as the elves of any origin have no gods. Therefore I
consider what I call "Shadow Elves" (sorry to TSR for any copyright
violation with respect to the same named race in the Mystara setting) as a
offshoot of the elves who were first corrupted by Azrai and taught evil
magic. They followed him bellow the ground into eternal darkness and learnt
the abilities that are common to drow. These then become the alven
equivalent of the Fallen only on an entire race level (given it would have
been much easier to train them in magic due to the elves natural aptitude
towards magic in the first place.

Craig




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[The Olesen`s]

craig@finance.econ.usyd.edu.au wrote:
>
> At 05:54 AM 11/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:28:21 EDT Daskinor@aol.com writes:
> >>In a message dated 98-06-10 17:13:56 EDT, olesens writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>But it says somewhere, I think in the Monstrous Manual, that Sea Elves
> >>can't
> >>cast wizardly magic.
> >>
> >>Although the reason for this is believed to have something to do with
> >>drow.
> >>SO... it could be said that since there are no drow (or are there???
> >>*sinister music* ), then they can cast.
> >>
> >>I don't know, just a thought. What do you think?
> >>
> >>Nathan
> >
> >I don't think there are drow, even if the Warlock accessory says so. I
> >look at them more as dark elves who live underground, not the drow we all
> >discovered in FR.
> >
> >Benjamin
> >
> I agree, the dark elves presented in the monstrous compendium (and thrashed
> out in FR) are fundamentally linked to Lolth (Lloth). This is not possible
> in the BR campaign as the elves of any origin have no gods. Therefore I
> consider what I call "Shadow Elves" (sorry to TSR for any copyright
> violation with respect to the same named race in the Mystara setting) as a
> offshoot of the elves who were first corrupted by Azrai and taught evil
> magic. They followed him bellow the ground into eternal darkness and learnt
> the abilities that are common to drow. These then become the alven
> equivalent of the Fallen only on an entire race level (given it would have
> been much easier to train them in magic due to the elves natural aptitude
> towards magic in the first place.
>
> Craig

Yeah, they could have been the elves like Rhoubhe who stayed with Azari
and REALLY took in his teachings.

[Alvaro Pulido]

- ---KirbyRanma@aol.com wrote:
>
> have.>>
>
> Ditto. I like the fact that if you encounter an elf, the
chances are
> about as likely the elf will want to hack you to pieces as that the
elf may be
> friendly. Who needs drow? Who needs sea elves? Let us march
across the
> Imperial City and chant "No more elves! No more elves! Keep the
Cerilian
> one's to themselves!" Yea! Woohoo! Hip hip... who wants me to
stop? :-(
>
I don't... actually, I like the idea that you're supporting.
I mean, when you see an elf in almost any AD&D you know which kind of
behavior does he has; but if you met an elf in Birthright, you don't
know what will he do next...


I hope my thought is clear... =P


==

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[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Alvaro Pulido wrote:
> I don't... actually, I like the idea that you're supporting.
> I mean, when you see an elf in almost any AD&D you know which kind of
> behavior does he has; but if you met an elf in Birthright, you don't
> know what will he do next...
>
>
> I hope my thought is clear... =P

Actually, if I were to use sea elves, I would make them as unique and
distinctive as their terrestrial cousins in Cerilia. The idea that I was
toying with, but never developed, what that the sea elves live in (or
rather around) the lands of Djapar, and are a large part of the reason
that there is not a lot of trade between Cerilia and Djapar.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[pwrobel@colba.ne]

>
>Actually, if I were to use sea elves, I would make them as unique and
>distinctive as their terrestrial cousins in Cerilia. The idea that I was
>toying with, but never developed, what that the sea elves live in (or
>rather around) the lands of Djapar, and are a large part of the reason
>that there is not a lot of trade between Cerilia and Djapar.
>
>Mark VanderMeulen
>vander+@pitt.edu
>
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>What could be interresting would be that the sea's surrounding Cerilia
would have underwater nations with blooded regents like Sea Elves , Sahuagin
, Merman and mermaids , tritons and maybe the abominations of the sea like
Leviathan , The Kraken or the Sea Drake .

Phil
>

The Laughing Wolf!!!