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  1. #11
    darkstar
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    Benjamin W Loebick wrote:

    > Aduria may be tapped, and no one realizes it. Or maybe the number of
    > blooded individuals in Aduria is so low, that there aren't enough wizards
    > around to tap all those sources.
    >
    In the realms I am creating for Aduria there are a few mages in the
    nothern empires, and only two or three in the south. The ones in the
    south are ancient and powerful though. Most of the sources remain
    untapped, especially inside the big empires.

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  2. #12
    darkstar
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    Gary V. Foss wrote:

    > Didn't somebody come up with underwater sources and such a while back on this
    > list? I think it was just before I subscribed as I don't remember reading it,
    > but I do remember comments made on the original post....
    >
    I believe that info can be found on my page, probably anyway.
    Go to http://darkstar.cyberserv.com and check out the netbook section.
    The info will be in there somewhere.

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  3. #13
    The Olesen`s
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    Mark A Vandermeulen wrote:
    >
    > On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, The Olesen's wrote:
    >
    > > If thier are underwater source holdings, who better to use them than,
    > > you guessed it, Sea Elves!
    > >
    > > They can be mages in BR w/o blood (that is divine blood). Who knows,
    > > maybee thier is an underwater kingdom of elves in CErillia....
    > >
    > > An interesting campaign idea......................
    >
    > I've toyed around with that idea, but never used it because my PC's have
    > shown an annoying tendency to remain on dry land. But I agree that its a
    > cool idea. I while back someone with some background in marine biology
    > posted suggestions for underwater sources based on the "life" that lives
    > in them. Thus shores will have higher sources than deeper waters, and
    > shores with rare kelp forests will have higher sources than rocky shores,
    > and extremely rare deep-water upwelling zones will have higher scores as
    > well. Shores with ports on the land will have lower sources due to
    > pollution. Those next to swamps on the land may have slightly higher
    > (maybe +1) sources as well.

    Also those underwater faults and volcanos.
    Not to metion those "smokestack" things people say life may have
    originated from.

  4. #14
    KirbyRanma@aol.co
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    In a message dated 98-06-09 09:39:25 EDT, you write:

    you guessed it, Sea Elves! >>

    I would personally hate to see sea elves develop. I think they were
    somewhat overdone in Dragonlance, but that may have been where their calling
    was. Off-hand, I don't recall another campaign setting that uses them that
    all the players would know of the sea elves (I'm not familiar enough with FR
    to know if they do or do not), but I don't recall them in Greyhawk or
    Planescape. I know they are not in Ravenloft and Dark Sun is right out. If
    we used sea elves, how "medieval" would they be? I don't see them as needing
    castles per se, but domes should be hard to build underwater. Also, if they
    do exist, who is their racial enemy? Kuo-toa? Sauhgin? Crabmen? There
    would have to be enough of an enemy so the elves wouldn't have a monopoly in
    the oceans. Granted the Krakken, Leviathan and Sea Drake would eat them up
    yum, as if they were fish-heads, but the PCs wouldn't stand a chance against
    any of them. To make the fighting arena *equal,* you'd have to helms of
    underwater breathing, rings of free action, etc and then you've just upped the
    magic quantity level.
    As far as the "land" or body of water is concerned, how would you divide
    them up into provinces? Would you just do by water body type or by depth?
    Would the land/source values matter since you couldn't build any holdings in
    the water (no new holdings "dock," "port," or "peir" please) What exactly
    would consist of a realm spell and would you really want a whole bunch of new
    water-based spells coming your way when in an armada? If two navies fought,
    the first one to cast "Tsunami" would probably win, unless the other cast
    "Whirlpool" first and then they mutually destroyed themselves. That would
    just suck spoiled bananas. Well, in my opinion, at least.

    Take care all,
    Kirby (wet behind the ears)

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    bloebick@juno.com (Benja
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:43:29 EDT KirbyRanma@aol.com writes:
    > I would personally hate to see sea elves develop. I think they
    >were
    >somewhat overdone in Dragonlance, but that may have been where their
    >calling
    >was.

    Three cheers for that! I like elves a lot, but far too often sea elves
    were played with all the advantages, non of the disadvantages.

    >Off-hand, I don't recall another campaign setting that uses them
    >that
    >all the players would know of the sea elves (I'm not familiar enough
    >with FR
    >to know if they do or do not), but I don't recall them in Greyhawk or
    >Planescape. I know they are not in Ravenloft and Dark Sun is right
    >out. If
    >we used sea elves, how "medieval" would they be? I don't see them as
    >needing
    >castles per se, but domes should be hard to build underwater.

    Actually, it would be easier underwater for construction, because of
    bouyancy and the ability to swim materials to where you wanted them
    instead of flying or cranes.

    > Also,
    >if they
    >do exist, who is their racial enemy? Kuo-toa? Sauhgin? Crabmen?

    Sauhgin already exist in BR, as stated somewhere... but I understood them
    to be a minor race that was reclusive, not some great terror of an enemy
    keeping down another population.

    >There
    >would have to be enough of an enemy so the elves wouldn't have a
    >monopoly in
    >the oceans. Granted the Krakken, Leviathan and Sea Drake would eat
    >them up
    >yum, as if they were fish-heads, but the PCs wouldn't stand a chance
    >against
    >any of them. To make the fighting arena *equal,* you'd have to helms
    >of
    >underwater breathing, rings of free action, etc and then you've just
    >upped the
    >magic quantity level.
    > As far as the "land" or body of water is concerned, how would you
    >divide
    >them up into provinces? Would you just do by water body type or by
    >depth?

    I would probably use the sea provinces listed for naval movement. Yeah,
    they are often larger than a normal province, but then you could say it
    requires more seabed to collect sufficient mebhaighl for sources.

    >Would the land/source values matter since you couldn't build any
    >holdings in
    >the water (no new holdings "dock," "port," or "peir" please)

    I'd say no land holdings allowed. However, the sea sources could be
    corrupted by dumping of trash, pollution from nearby seaports, etc.
    Maybe a great naval battle sends down 40 ships with their crews. That
    might adversely affect the sources as well. That way you could keep the
    PC's sources in constant flux, and give them challenges to protect their
    power base.

    > What
    >exactly
    >would consist of a realm spell and would you really want a whole bunch
    >of new
    >water-based spells coming your way when in an armada? If two navies
    >fought,
    >the first one to cast "Tsunami" would probably win, unless the other
    >cast
    >"Whirlpool" first and then they mutually destroyed themselves. That
    >would
    >just suck spoiled bananas. Well, in my opinion, at least.
    >
    >Take care all,
    >Kirby (wet behind the ears)

    Yeah.... those sound like typical realm spells. But they would only
    affect 1 combat square adjacent to the caster!!!! *joke*

    Other realm spells would be Violent Storms, Churning Water, Bad Winds,
    Becalmed, Call Shark Hordes, Repel Huge Gigantic Monstrous Ugly
    Awnsheghlien Beasts of Terror From My Sea Province, and maybe Good
    Fishing for Little Johnny and Sue. ;)

    Benjamin

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