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  1. #1
    The Olesen`s
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    Okay, the gods blew up over Deismar and spread thier essence throughout
    the land.

    But why does Anuire, near Desimar, have equal scource to Vossgard (far
    from Desimar)? If it spread evenly that would also mean Anduria has
    scource, but it is unttaped...

    Which leads to my next question...

    Wouldn't some of the god's divine might land in the seas? Did it "sink"
    to the bottom or did it say in the water? Could this power be tapped by
    a resourceful wizard?

    BTW-I am a DM and not a player so don't tell me to consult my DM. I was
    looking for ideas that I might apply to my next BR campaign.

  2. #2
    bloebick@juno.com (Benja
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 15:13:43 -0400 "The Olesen's"
    writes:
    >Okay, the gods blew up over Deismar and spread thier essence
    >throughout
    >the land.
    >
    >But why does Anuire, near Desimar, have equal scource to Vossgard (far
    >from Desimar)? If it spread evenly that would also mean Anduria has
    >scource, but it is unttaped...

    For one thing, the sources aren't relics of the gods or their essence,
    but a natural power of the land that was around even before Deismaar
    (elven and ancient ley lines existed before Deismaar).

    Aduria may be tapped, and no one realizes it. Or maybe the number of
    blooded individuals in Aduria is so low, that there aren't enough wizards
    around to tap all those sources.

    >
    >Which leads to my next question...
    >
    >Wouldn't some of the god's divine might land in the seas? Did it
    >"sink"
    >to the bottom or did it say in the water? Could this power be tapped
    >by
    >a resourceful wizard?

    Well, it could have, but oceans being as they are, it has been so
    thoroughly mixed over the intervening centuries with the rest of the
    water in the world that now it is has negligible concentrations.
    However, source power isn't essence of the gods - bloodlines are. If you
    wanted to allow resourceful wizards to tap the ocean for sources, go
    ahead. The rules say that coastal provinces are supposed to have a
    higher source potential, so you could extrapolate that to mean the oceans
    are also sources.

    >
    >BTW-I am a DM and not a player so don't tell me to consult my DM. I
    >was
    >looking for ideas that I might apply to my next BR campaign.

    Well, then, you have it easiest! Just make a decision, and presto
    whammo! It is! ;)

    Benjamin

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  3. #3
    DKEvermore@aol.co
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    In a message dated 98-06-08 15:46:44 EDT, you write:

    > But why does Anuire, near Desimar, have equal scource to Vossgard (far
    > from Desimar)? If it spread evenly that would also mean Anduria has
    > scource, but it is unttaped...

    Magical Source was not given to the land by the death of the gods, only the
    bloodlines were. I has been noted in several PS timelines and the BoM that
    old ley lines from ancient sources did exist (and some still do!) before
    Deismaar.

    Perhaps instead you refer to bloodlines? Well, generally speaking the
    bloodline imbued only the survivors of the battle with the divine power, not
    the whole continent. Although the BoM speaks of special stones with the
    essence of gods in them, these have no effect or power whatsoever outside of
    contact with certain blooded individuals. Thus, you can see the divine
    essense was largely confined to the battlefield around Desimaar.


    >
    > Which leads to my next question...
    >
    > Wouldn't some of the god's divine might land in the seas? Did it "sink"
    > to the bottom or did it say in the water? Could this power be tapped by
    > a resourceful wizard?
    >

    Apparently, the divine power released at the time of the Destruction did
    nothing for non-humanoids. Aside from possible legends which will vary from
    campaign to campaign, there are no records of any animals absorbing divine
    essense at Deismaar. The land is likely to have absorbed the essense of the
    dead gods where there was no humanoid vessel. Note that this divine power is
    NOT magical Source power!

    There are examples of creatures later devouring blooded individuals and then
    gaining the blood power which explains the Boar of Thuringode, the Kraken, the
    Leviathan, etc.

    - -DKE

  4. #4
    Gary V. Foss
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    The Olesen's wrote:

    > Okay, the gods blew up over Deismar and spread thier essence throughout
    > the land.
    >
    > But why does Anuire, near Desimar, have equal scource to Vossgard (far
    > from Desimar)? If it spread evenly that would also mean Anduria has
    > scource, but it is unttaped...

    My take on this is that Deismaar didn't actually imbue the land itself with
    magical power. That power was already there. In fact, that power might very
    well be in all lands of every campaign setting. The difference between the BR
    setting and that of all other campaign worlds is that after Deismaar, the power
    of the gods entered certain people, giving them the ability to tap into the
    power of the land.

    If you go with this interpretation, it means that Aduria does have an equal
    number of sources as Cerilia. In fact, probably more as I believe it is a
    bigger continent. All that Cerilia has over Aduria is the proximity of blooded
    individuals.

    Personally, I'm getting the feeling that the next version of the AD&D core
    rules is going to reflect this to some extent. I suspect there are going to be
    some very BR-like rules for characters who come to dominate the lands in
    whatever campaign setting they are in.

    > Which leads to my next question...
    >
    > Wouldn't some of the god's divine might land in the seas? Did it "sink"
    > to the bottom or did it say in the water? Could this power be tapped by
    > a resourceful wizard?

    Didn't somebody come up with underwater sources and such a while back on this
    list? I think it was just before I subscribed as I don't remember reading it,
    but I do remember comments made on the original post....

    - -Gary

  5. #5
    The Olesen`s
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    Okay, Alright Already!!

    I forgot that magical source power was pre-desimar(elves!).

    But that means there is source in other continents, right?

    Also is thier megible in water (or on the seabed)?

  6. #6
    Rasmus Juul Wagner
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    The Olesen's wrote:
    >
    > Okay, the gods blew up over Deismar and spread thier essence throughout
    > the land.
    >
    > But why does Anuire, near Desimar, have equal scource to Vossgard (far
    > from Desimar)? If it spread evenly that would also mean Anduria has
    > scource, but it is unttaped...
    >
    > Which leads to my next question...
    >
    > Wouldn't some of the god's divine might land in the seas? Did it "sink"
    > to the bottom or did it say in the water? Could this power be tapped by
    > a resourceful wizard?
    >
    > BTW-I am a DM and not a player so don't tell me to consult my DM. I was
    > looking for ideas that I might apply to my next BR campaign.
    >

    You seem to have misunderstood something. The mebhaigl has always been
    there. Deismaar created the bloodlines which _enable wizards to use the
    mebhaigl_.

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  7. #7
    Brian Stoner
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    In answer to both your questions, the magic that is tapped by wizards when they
    have sources is not the residual essence of the dead gods. It was in the land
    of Cerilia long before Deismaar. The rain of divine essence that was absorbed
    by those who survived Deismaar allows them, if they are so inclined (i.e.
    wizards), to tap into the magic of the land.

    Brian

    The Olesen's wrote:

    > Okay, the gods blew up over Deismar and spread thier essence throughout
    > the land.
    >
    > But why does Anuire, near Desimar, have equal scource to Vossgard (far
    > from Desimar)? If it spread evenly that would also mean Anduria has
    > scource, but it is unttaped...
    >
    > Which leads to my next question...
    >
    > Wouldn't some of the god's divine might land in the seas? Did it "sink"
    > to the bottom or did it say in the water? Could this power be tapped by
    > a resourceful wizard?

  8. #8
    bloebick@juno.com (Benja
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:00:21 -0400 "The Olesen's"
    writes:
    >Okay, Alright Already!!
    >
    >I forgot that magical source power was pre-desimar(elves!).
    >
    >But that means there is source in other continents, right?

    Absolutely. Any where a wizard goes, s/he can tap sources.

    >
    >Also is thier megible in water (or on the seabed)?
    There could be. As I said, coastal provinces are supposed to have a
    higher source level than non-coastal provinces of the same type. If you
    want seabeds to have sources, then go ahead and allow it. But remember
    ley lines can only go 150 miles over water before collapsing, so maybe
    only the near sea provinces have sources.

    Benjamin

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    The Olesen`s
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    If thier are underwater source holdings, who better to use them than,
    you guessed it, Sea Elves!

    They can be mages in BR w/o blood (that is divine blood). Who knows,
    maybee thier is an underwater kingdom of elves in CErillia....

    An interesting campaign idea......................

  10. #10
    Mark A Vandermeulen
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    Mehigible and the Seas

    On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, The Olesen's wrote:

    > If thier are underwater source holdings, who better to use them than,
    > you guessed it, Sea Elves!
    >
    > They can be mages in BR w/o blood (that is divine blood). Who knows,
    > maybee thier is an underwater kingdom of elves in CErillia....
    >
    > An interesting campaign idea......................

    I've toyed around with that idea, but never used it because my PC's have
    shown an annoying tendency to remain on dry land. But I agree that its a
    cool idea. I while back someone with some background in marine biology
    posted suggestions for underwater sources based on the "life" that lives
    in them. Thus shores will have higher sources than deeper waters, and
    shores with rare kelp forests will have higher sources than rocky shores,
    and extremely rare deep-water upwelling zones will have higher scores as
    well. Shores with ports on the land will have lower sources due to
    pollution. Those next to swamps on the land may have slightly higher
    (maybe +1) sources as well. If you decide to use it, tell us how it goes,
    I would be interested in hearing about it.

    Mark VanderMeulen
    vander+@pitt.edu

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