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05-17-1998, 04:03 AM #1lyndon@pobox.com (LyndonGuest
Dragon Magic
I think that Dragon use of sources and magic should be very Different
than humans. Aren't many dragons older than Mt. D. battle? Even more
than elves they might be relics of an earlier age and style of magic.
Lyndon
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05-18-1998, 05:31 AM #2Trankel Al KerGuest
Dragon Magic
At 11:00 AM 18/05/98 +0200, Trizt wrote:
>Brett Lang wrote:
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>>Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
>>holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
>>? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
>
>>Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
>>If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
>>would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
>
>IMO Dragons are unblooded creatures, but they are so strong in magic
>that they can control/create source holdings and use this power to cast
>dragon-magic-realmspells, which never requiers RP.
>
I think that the Dragon who lives in the five Peaks actually HAS Bloodline..
Trankel Al Ker
Lord of the Brotherhood of the Black Tulipan
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05-18-1998, 08:21 AM #3Phil BurgeGuest
Dragon Magic
I'm inclined to agree with you Brett, although as any of my players would tell
you I am a BIG fan of Dragons - my second favourite world after BR is
Dragonlance and I own Council of Wyrms (which is quite a cool concept). However
other than my love of these fantastic creatures there are other reasons;
1. Dragon's function as Wizards of levels 9 - 16th or above in some cases.
Although they are restricted in schools (they can only cast spells from the
schools of abjuration, alteration, conjuration/summoning and divination) as
Wizards they should be able to control Sources like any other intelligent
creature (ie elves, humans, orogs, goblins etc.) that produces wizards. To
remove some of their massive power if they can cast realm spells limit them to
those spells which are from thier allowed schools (25 of 37 spells) which
removes spells like Summon Undead Legion and Raze from their potential
repertoire of Realm Spells.
2. As Dragon's are intelligent and rare and supposedly one of the most
powerful race of creatures, if not the most powerful, they make great villians.
Rather than just monsters, a Dragon with Realm magic can become a viable threat
to a kingdom rather than a monster to try and slay. It becomes necessary to
negoitiate with the dragon as a show of military force is unlikely to scare it
as it might a humanoid wizard, and its command of magic means that while
literally flying rings round the PCs it can be decimating kingdoms. One of my
PCs managed to anger a dragon and after a major battle - his army vs. the
dragon has ended up with a dragon lairing in the remains of one of his castles
- - his army was also decimated.
That's two reasons why I see Dragons having access to sources. Another
point is that Sources are a measure of magical energy - not the respect of the
peasants or the # of people who visit you temple or shop at your guilds - they
don't rule over people but use the magic of the land - as they are intensly
magical creatures I don't see why not. As for investiture use the rules in BoP
for the Land's Choice or Elven (read Dragon) investiture.
Hope my opinion counts, Phil.
> I have just perchased the TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTE campaign expansion
> thought it was pretty cool ) and an entry concerning one Dragon ( Vore
> Lekiniskiy ) the Dragon of Vstaive Peak of Zoloskaya is reported to have
> recenty awoken from a long sleep, and to have taken control of 2 source
> holdings.
>
> Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
> holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
> ? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
>
> Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
> If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
> would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
>
> So, what's everyone's opinion on this ?
>
> Sweet water and light laughter until next.
> Warlock.
>
> ************************************************** *************************
> >
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05-18-1998, 09:00 AM #4TriztGuest
Dragon Magic
Brett Lang wrote:
>Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
>holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
>? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
>Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
>If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
>would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
IMO Dragons are unblooded creatures, but they are so strong in magic
that they can control/create source holdings and use this power to cast
dragon-magic-realmspells, which never requiers RP.
//Trizt
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05-18-1998, 02:00 PM #5Daniel McSorleyGuest
Dragon Magic
From: Trankel Al Ker
>I think that the Dragon who lives in the five Peaks actually HAS
>Bloodline..
Dragons can not have bloodlines. The ones at Deismaar were buffeted and
possibly injured from the blast, but were otherwise unaffected. Whichever
Dragon magazine it was that had Tarazin the Grey, stated as much.
Daniel McSorley
mcsorley.1@osu.edu
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mcsorley/
ICQ:5299865
AIM:DanMcS
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05-18-1998, 03:03 PM #6pateraGuest
Dragon Magic
Check out the June DRAGON Magazine. It has an interesting article about
Vore. That should explain most everything.
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> From: Brett Lang
> To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Dragon Magic
> Date: Sunday, May 17, 1998 8:23 PM
>
> I have just perchased the TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTE campaign
expansion
> thought it was pretty cool ) and an entry concerning one Dragon ( Vore
> Lekiniskiy ) the Dragon of Vstaive Peak of Zoloskaya is reported to have
> recenty awoken from a long sleep, and to have taken control of 2 source
> holdings.
>
> Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
> holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
> ? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
>
> Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
> If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent
( I
> would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
>
> So, what's everyone's opinion on this ?
>
> Sweet water and light laughter until next.
> Warlock.
>
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05-18-1998, 03:05 PM #7darkstarGuest
Dragon Magic
Brett Lang wrote:
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> I have just perchased the TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTE campaign expansion
> thought it was pretty cool ) and an entry concerning one Dragon ( Vore
> Lekiniskiy ) the Dragon of Vstaive Peak of Zoloskaya is reported to have
> recenty awoken from a long sleep, and to have taken control of 2 source
> holdings.
>
> Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
> holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
> ? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
That would be about correct. After seeing the mentions of the Dragon of
Drachenward, and Vore Lekiniskiy I though about this a bit and decided
that Dragons as extreamly powerful in tune with the world type creature
can control the magic of the land the same as an Elf or blooded wizard
can. They do not need a bloodline to do so, they are just powerful
enough to do it.
I see them as belonging in a ancient time, before even the old gods were
born. Humanity was not intelligent enough to even believe in gods yet
and so only the older races like the Dragons, Elves, Dwarves, and my
neat Snakemen race from Aduria (working on rewrite of them) existed. Now
Dwarves didn't learn how to cast spell and use realm magic, but Dragons
and Elves did, and in fact still can.
As for regency I allow Dragon's to accumulate it if they control
holdings. As to create holding all you need is some gold then a Dragon
Sorceror should be able to create holdings as well as any blooded human,
and collect the power (RPs) for those sources.
I am not sure I would allow Dragons to rule Realms, or other holdings
though. Not only would they not be interested in the lives of mortals
like humans the people wouldn't be too happy about it either. (Ok
Dragons may not be immortal, but they live a long, long time).
> Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
> If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
> would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
I don't see why not. As a regent they would be able to cast realm
spells, increase their holdings and that sort of thing. If you restrict
them to source holdings then a priest for investiture spells is not
required so there is nothing to stop a Dragon from controlling holding.
By the way Vore Lekiniskiy would have to be my favourite regent in
Cerilia. I am not actually running a Vosgaard campaign at the moment,
but if I were I would certainly use him.
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Ian Hoskins
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Homepage: http://darkstar.cyberserv.com
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05-18-1998, 06:18 PM #8Alain PouliotGuest
Dragon Magic
Greeting!!!
Did you have sites with warcard that we can download????
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05-19-1998, 12:06 AM #9darkstarGuest
Dragon Magic
Alain Pouliot wrote:
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> Greeting!!!
>
> Did you have sites with warcard that we can download????
Try looking at this page
http://www.student.uni-augsburg.de/~voelkman/warcard.html
it has a lot of warcards avalible for download.
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Ian Hoskins
e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
Homepage: http://darkstar.cyberserv.com
ICQ: 2938300
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05-19-1998, 07:50 AM #10Ryan B. CaveneyGuest
Dragon Magic
On Mon, 18 May 1998, Daniel McSorley wrote:
> Dragons can not have bloodlines.
Sure they can! All they have to do is commit bloodtheft in the
strange, undocumented way that certain Awnsheghlien (like the Boar of
Thuringode) did. And hey, being chomped on by a dragon should surely
count as death by being pierced through the heart. And magical blood
probably makes people much tastier...
- --Ryan
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