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  1. #1
    lyndon@pobox.com (Lyndon
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    Dragon Magic

    I think that Dragon use of sources and magic should be very Different
    than humans. Aren't many dragons older than Mt. D. battle? Even more
    than elves they might be relics of an earlier age and style of magic.

    Lyndon

  2. #2
    Trankel Al Ker
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    At 11:00 AM 18/05/98 +0200, Trizt wrote:
    >Brett Lang wrote:
    >
    >>Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
    >>holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
    >>? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
    >
    >>Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
    >>If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
    >>would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
    >
    >IMO Dragons are unblooded creatures, but they are so strong in magic
    >that they can control/create source holdings and use this power to cast
    >dragon-magic-realmspells, which never requiers RP.
    >
    I think that the Dragon who lives in the five Peaks actually HAS Bloodline..
    Trankel Al Ker
    Lord of the Brotherhood of the Black Tulipan

  3. #3
    Phil Burge
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    I'm inclined to agree with you Brett, although as any of my players would tell
    you I am a BIG fan of Dragons - my second favourite world after BR is
    Dragonlance and I own Council of Wyrms (which is quite a cool concept). However
    other than my love of these fantastic creatures there are other reasons;

    1. Dragon's function as Wizards of levels 9 - 16th or above in some cases.
    Although they are restricted in schools (they can only cast spells from the
    schools of abjuration, alteration, conjuration/summoning and divination) as
    Wizards they should be able to control Sources like any other intelligent
    creature (ie elves, humans, orogs, goblins etc.) that produces wizards. To
    remove some of their massive power if they can cast realm spells limit them to
    those spells which are from thier allowed schools (25 of 37 spells) which
    removes spells like Summon Undead Legion and Raze from their potential
    repertoire of Realm Spells.

    2. As Dragon's are intelligent and rare and supposedly one of the most
    powerful race of creatures, if not the most powerful, they make great villians.
    Rather than just monsters, a Dragon with Realm magic can become a viable threat
    to a kingdom rather than a monster to try and slay. It becomes necessary to
    negoitiate with the dragon as a show of military force is unlikely to scare it
    as it might a humanoid wizard, and its command of magic means that while
    literally flying rings round the PCs it can be decimating kingdoms. One of my
    PCs managed to anger a dragon and after a major battle - his army vs. the
    dragon has ended up with a dragon lairing in the remains of one of his castles
    - - his army was also decimated.

    That's two reasons why I see Dragons having access to sources. Another
    point is that Sources are a measure of magical energy - not the respect of the
    peasants or the # of people who visit you temple or shop at your guilds - they
    don't rule over people but use the magic of the land - as they are intensly
    magical creatures I don't see why not. As for investiture use the rules in BoP
    for the Land's Choice or Elven (read Dragon) investiture.

    Hope my opinion counts, Phil.

    > I have just perchased the TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTE campaign expansion
    > thought it was pretty cool ) and an entry concerning one Dragon ( Vore
    > Lekiniskiy ) the Dragon of Vstaive Peak of Zoloskaya is reported to have
    > recenty awoken from a long sleep, and to have taken control of 2 source
    > holdings.
    >
    > Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
    > holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
    > ? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
    >
    > Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
    > If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
    > would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
    >
    > So, what's everyone's opinion on this ?
    >
    > Sweet water and light laughter until next.
    > Warlock.
    >
    > ************************************************** *************************
    > >

  4. #4
    Trizt
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    Dragon Magic

    Brett Lang wrote:

    >Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
    >holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
    >? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?

    >Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
    >If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
    >would assume so ), including Domain Actions.

    IMO Dragons are unblooded creatures, but they are so strong in magic
    that they can control/create source holdings and use this power to cast
    dragon-magic-realmspells, which never requiers RP.

    //Trizt

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    Daniel McSorley
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    From: Trankel Al Ker
    >I think that the Dragon who lives in the five Peaks actually HAS
    >Bloodline..
    Dragons can not have bloodlines. The ones at Deismaar were buffeted and
    possibly injured from the blast, but were otherwise unaffected. Whichever
    Dragon magazine it was that had Tarazin the Grey, stated as much.
    Daniel McSorley
    mcsorley.1@osu.edu
    http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mcsorley/
    ICQ:5299865
    AIM:DanMcS

  6. #6
    patera
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    Check out the June DRAGON Magazine. It has an interesting article about
    Vore. That should explain most everything.

    - ----------
    > From: Brett Lang
    > To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    > Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Dragon Magic
    > Date: Sunday, May 17, 1998 8:23 PM
    >
    > I have just perchased the TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTE campaign
    expansion
    > thought it was pretty cool ) and an entry concerning one Dragon ( Vore
    > Lekiniskiy ) the Dragon of Vstaive Peak of Zoloskaya is reported to have
    > recenty awoken from a long sleep, and to have taken control of 2 source
    > holdings.
    >
    > Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
    > holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
    > ? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?
    >
    > Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
    > If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent
    ( I
    > would assume so ), including Domain Actions.
    >
    > So, what's everyone's opinion on this ?
    >
    > Sweet water and light laughter until next.
    > Warlock.
    >
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  7. #7
    darkstar
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    Brett Lang wrote:
    >
    > I have just perchased the TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTE campaign expansion
    > thought it was pretty cool ) and an entry concerning one Dragon ( Vore
    > Lekiniskiy ) the Dragon of Vstaive Peak of Zoloskaya is reported to have
    > recenty awoken from a long sleep, and to have taken control of 2 source
    > holdings.
    >
    > Now, the only reason I can see for this, is if dragons can control source
    > holdings, they must then be able to accumulate Regency. ( with me so far
    > ? ). Then, if they have regency, what do they do with it ?

    That would be about correct. After seeing the mentions of the Dragon of
    Drachenward, and Vore Lekiniskiy I though about this a bit and decided
    that Dragons as extreamly powerful in tune with the world type creature
    can control the magic of the land the same as an Elf or blooded wizard
    can. They do not need a bloodline to do so, they are just powerful
    enough to do it.
    I see them as belonging in a ancient time, before even the old gods were
    born. Humanity was not intelligent enough to even believe in gods yet
    and so only the older races like the Dragons, Elves, Dwarves, and my
    neat Snakemen race from Aduria (working on rewrite of them) existed. Now
    Dwarves didn't learn how to cast spell and use realm magic, but Dragons
    and Elves did, and in fact still can.
    As for regency I allow Dragon's to accumulate it if they control
    holdings. As to create holding all you need is some gold then a Dragon
    Sorceror should be able to create holdings as well as any blooded human,
    and collect the power (RPs) for those sources.
    I am not sure I would allow Dragons to rule Realms, or other holdings
    though. Not only would they not be interested in the lives of mortals
    like humans the people wouldn't be too happy about it either. (Ok
    Dragons may not be immortal, but they live a long, long time).


    > Can they cast realm spells ( I can't see any reason why not ? Can you ? )
    > If they own holdings, then are they treated as would be any other Regent ( I
    > would assume so ), including Domain Actions.

    I don't see why not. As a regent they would be able to cast realm
    spells, increase their holdings and that sort of thing. If you restrict
    them to source holdings then a priest for investiture spells is not
    required so there is nothing to stop a Dragon from controlling holding.

    By the way Vore Lekiniskiy would have to be my favourite regent in
    Cerilia. I am not actually running a Vosgaard campaign at the moment,
    but if I were I would certainly use him.

    - --
    Ian Hoskins

    e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
    Homepage: http://darkstar.cyberserv.com
    ICQ: 2938300

  8. #8
    Alain Pouliot
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    Greeting!!!

    Did you have sites with warcard that we can download????








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  9. #9
    darkstar
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    Alain Pouliot wrote:
    >
    > Greeting!!!
    >
    > Did you have sites with warcard that we can download????

    Try looking at this page
    http://www.student.uni-augsburg.de/~voelkman/warcard.html
    it has a lot of warcards avalible for download.

    - --
    Ian Hoskins

    e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
    Homepage: http://darkstar.cyberserv.com
    ICQ: 2938300

  10. #10
    Ryan B. Caveney
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    Dragon Magic

    On Mon, 18 May 1998, Daniel McSorley wrote:

    > Dragons can not have bloodlines.

    Sure they can! All they have to do is commit bloodtheft in the
    strange, undocumented way that certain Awnsheghlien (like the Boar of
    Thuringode) did. And hey, being chomped on by a dragon should surely
    count as death by being pierced through the heart. And magical blood
    probably makes people much tastier...

    - --Ryan

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