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  1. #1
    Trankel Al Ker
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    At 04:19 PM 8/05/98 -0500, James Ruhland wrote:
    >>
    >> Rights=control over that land, no? :D Never said anything about whether
    >> they actually *ruled* that land, if you know what I mean! :P
    >>
    >Now we're getting way into quibbling. . .he was given rights to the land by
    >Roele, but not by the Spider. So he never "controled" it, or Ruled it. Or
    >probably even set foot in it (and anyone he sent into it, probably only
    >came back, if at all, in several pieces. . .which I would hardly consider
    >excercising control.)
    >
    Let's say it this way: Roele gave him the land, but never said anything
    about the awshenglien that lived there.. =) (I think they missed to tell
    that to the spider)... )=)
    Trankel Al Ker
    Lord of the Brotherhood of the Black Tulipan

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    The Olesen`s
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    What "present-day" domains did the duchy of Diemed encompass?
    Ilien?
    Medeore?
    Roesone?

    And what did the duchy of Aewerne encompass?
    Osorde?
    I have no clue.

  3. #3
    James Ruhland
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    >
    > What "present-day" domains did the duchy of Diemed encompass?
    > Ilien?
    > Medeore?
    > Roesone?
    >
    Ilien, Medoere, and about half of Roesone

    > And what did the duchy of Aewerne encompass?
    > Osorde?
    > I have no clue.
    >
    The other half of Roesone, but no part of Osoerde.

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    Eric Dunn
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    They have a very rough map in the front of the novel "The Iron Throne"
    which shows the original 12 duchies. Aerenwe was it, by itself, nada. Had
    a few provinces of Roesone, I think, but it's hard to tell. Diemed had
    parts of Roesone, Medoere and Ilien. Ilien, surprisingly was the first to
    leave Diemed. Oh, and Osoerde was a duchy of it's own, and I know Coeranys
    is listed as currently having a duchess, way back when, it was listed as a
    "border" country, or some such.

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    At 03:54 PM 5/8/98 -0400, you wrote:
    >What "present-day" domains did the duchy of Diemed encompass?
    > Ilien?
    > Medeore?
    > Roesone?
    >
    >And what did the duchy of Aewerne encompass?
    > Osorde?
    > I have no clue.
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  5. #5
    Jim Cooper
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    The Olesen's wrote:
    >
    > What "present-day" domains did the duchy of Diemed encompass?
    > Ilien?
    > Medeore?
    > Roesone?
    >
    > And what did the duchy of Aewerne encompass?
    > Osorde?
    > I have no clue.

    Diemed: all of Endier, Ilien, Medoere, Diemed (of course), and parts of
    Roesone (basically Ghoried, Caercas, and part of Fairfield)

    Aerenwe: all of Aerenwe (of course) and parts of Roesone (specifically
    Edlin, Duerlin, Abbatour, Bellam, and part of Fairfield)

    Hope this helps!

    Darren

  6. #6
    James Ruhland
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    >
    > Diemed: all of Endier, Ilien, Medoere, Diemed (of course), and parts of
    > Roesone (basically Ghoried, Caercas, and part of Fairfield)
    >
    As far as I know, Diemed never actually ruled the area around Endier. Roele
    granted the rights to the place to Diem, but he could never wrest it from
    the Spider.

  7. #7
    Jim Cooper
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    James Ruhland wrote:
    > As far as I know, Diemed never actually ruled the area around Endier. Roele
    > granted the rights to the place to Diem, but he could never wrest it from
    > the Spider.

    Rights=control over that land, no? :D Never said anything about whether
    they actually *ruled* that land, if you know what I mean! :P

    (my guess is that it was a 0 level province at the time, before RE came)

    Darren

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    James Ruhland
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    >
    > Rights=control over that land, no? :D Never said anything about whether
    > they actually *ruled* that land, if you know what I mean! :P
    >
    Now we're getting way into quibbling. . .he was given rights to the land by
    Roele, but not by the Spider. So he never "controled" it, or Ruled it. Or
    probably even set foot in it (and anyone he sent into it, probably only
    came back, if at all, in several pieces. . .which I would hardly consider
    excercising control.)

    James "Pedantikos" Ruhland

  9. #9
    Jim Cooper
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    James Ruhland wrote:
    >. .he was given rights to the land by
    > Roele, but not by the Spider. So he never "controled" it, or Ruled it. Or
    > probably even set foot in it (and anyone he sent into it, probably only
    > came back, if at all, in several pieces. . .which I would hardly consider
    > excercising control.)
    >

    Okay, true - whatever you say - all I'm saying is that I don't see why
    someone needs to go ask permission to settle an area that doesn't belong
    to the person he was asking. Or, was given rights over a piece of land
    but not allowed to say he owned that piece of land, and believing those
    rights made it a part of his demesne. If one take all this as given,
    then no, Endier was not part of Diemed. Sorry for any confusion I have
    caused.

    Darren "Now I'm even MORE confused about BR feudalism!" Cooper

  10. #10
    James Ruhland
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    >
    > Darren "Now I'm even MORE confused about BR feudalism!" Cooper
    >
    Feudalism is a terrible, confusing form of government. When I'm Emperor, I
    plan on scrapping the whole thing and going for something more rational. .
    .once i can figure out what that might be. :)~

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