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    I`m curious as to what others think about

    incorporating some of the bloodline rules from Unearth

    Arcana, over and on top of whatever other blood

    abilities and so forth your house rules deem

    appropriate...



    I kind of think the mechanics fit thematically with

    Birthright, as far as taking Bloodline levels

    increasing your caster level and level-dependant class

    abilities. They give you feats and minor skill

    bonuses. I think perhaps the "Affinity" should be

    replaced with an environment type rather than a

    creature type to represent deities associated with

    seas, storms, forests, shadows, etc.



    Any thoughts?



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    There was quite a lively discussion on this subject earlier. Here is the link to the thread:

    http://www.birthright.net/forums/ind...showtopic=2465
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    At 10:26 AM 6/24/2004 -0700, you wrote:



    >I`m curious as to what others think about incorporating some of the

    >bloodline rules from Unearth

    >Arcana, over and on top of whatever other blood abilities and so forth

    >your house rules deem appropriate...



    I think the system presented looks like it`d work just fine. Personally,

    I`m a little leery in that it seems to have a rather dramatic scaling issue

    involved with major and then great blood abilities and effects, but most

    people probably wouldn`t notice that if using relatively few awnshegh

    characters. When it gets right down to it, however, I don`t know if it is

    a particularly better method than others that have been suggested, so as

    far as "Rule X" is concerned one could use a character class or this

    bloodline system to do pretty nearly the same thing.



    One thing the UA bloodline system method of portraying awnshegh does seem

    not to capture that a character class does better is that the speed of

    transformation doesn`t necessarily have anything to do with the factors

    that are used. That is, there are awnshegh with true bloodlines and great

    bloodtrait who are less transformed over time than other awnshegh who have

    lower bloodlines and maybe not that blood ability at all. The

    transformation of awnshegh need not necessarily have anything to do with

    character levels as depicted by such a system. As a character class one

    can control the speed of transformation in a way that is still tied to all

    the aspects of a character like ECL but in a way that might not require a

    character have associated levels in another class. That`s a fairly nuanced

    aspect of the original awnshegh concept, however, and most folks seem less

    worried about it than I am.



    There are a couple of other things about the proposed UA interpretation of

    awnshegh that I`m a little leery of. I`m not sure the LA values, for

    instance, really balance very well, but I`d have to take a better look at

    it to say for sure. On the whole, the proposal is rather rough so it shows

    a lot of promise as an early draft.



    Gary

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    Thanks for the link, Irdeggman.



    If "the Falcon" has done any more bloodlines, I`d

    appreciate having them sent to me or posted. Thanks.

    Rather than come up with a fixed bloodline system, I`m

    trying to transpose bloodlines into various aspects of

    3e, so I`m kind of thinking I can take these onto

    bloodline classes and feats, as well.



    I especially enjoyed Irdeggman`s comment as to

    different aspects of blood abilities that an Anduiras

    bloodline could focus on, and if you have any

    suggestions for different bloodlines as well, that`d

    be a help. It`s kind of hard going through all the

    material and trying to find themes for different

    bloodlines since its not all in one place.



    -Lord Rahvin

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    Gary,
    I think you are interposing two different, albeit related, ideas here.

    The question that was asked is the one about generally using the UA bloodlines as a mechanic for BR bloodlines/abilities.

    the one you are answereing, or seem to be, is the one on awnshegh progression using the UA bloodlines as a base. The awnshegh application is specifically designed to work with the BRCS and not be independent (although it could easily work with other mechanics, IMO).

    The 'original' question was, I think, best refocused to Ming I's thread on the same topic, while the latter was basically contained within the thread on the BRCS.

    Link to the latter discussion:
    http://www.birthright.net/forums/ind...showtopic=2701
    Duane Eggert

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    Originally posted by Birthright-L@Jun 25 2004, 05:40 AM
    If "the Falcon" has done any more bloodlines, I`d appreciate having them sent to me or posted. Thanks.
    Here's some more:
    http://www.birthright.net/forums/index.php...indpost&p=27848
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