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    > First off, if a regent has a level zero law holding in the level zero
    > province he controls, can he/she tax the province at the severe level
    > with no penalties to loyalty??

    I'd still give penalties to loyalty - OK, a rebellion ain't going to
    do much, but a few angry famers are still angry farmers. Since the
    amount of money gained from severe taxation is so low (1/3 GB on
    average) then personally I don't see the point in taxing it at all.
    The last time I played a realm with a level 0 province (curiously,
    the only time I've actually played BR - generally I GM the thing) I
    just ignored it for taxation, which then puts loyalty up. As a
    result, I didn't lose any money worth speaking of and I had a
    fantastically loyal province where everyone thought I was great.
    Always an advantage! ;-)

    John.

    "Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then
    the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a
    different universe."
    "And now you kill the lambs," whispered Dardalion.
    "No, priest. No one pays for lambs."
    - David Gemmel, Waylander

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    Raygun
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    Howdy Ho, you smell awful flowery today....
    Two quickie questions...

    First off, if a regent has a level zero law holding in the level zero
    province he controls, can he/she tax the province at the severe level
    with no penalties to loyalty??

    Secondly, who controls trade routes the nations they pass through or the
    guilds that set them up. Can a guild set up a trade route without
    asking anybody. If not, can they do a diplomacy action to
    each of the countries involved and get their permission without the two
    countries having to expend a diplomacy to set it up??

    THirdly, does anybody runs a PBEM have any advice/utilites to make it
    easier. I am really keen
    to start up a PBEM or co-DM an existing one but I am not keen on
    pen/paper to be my main resource!!

    Lastly, is there anyone running a PBEM who needs a new player, esp. the
    Southern Coast of Anuire or the Rjuik Highlands.

    Super laslty, anybody playing in Hamilton, specifically New Zealand??

    Cheers Big Ears

    Mr Hankey the Christmas Poo
    (aka Raygun)

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    Ryan B. Caveney
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    On Tue, 5 May 1998, Raygun wrote:

    > First off, if a regent has a level zero law holding in the level zero
    > province he controls, can he/she tax the province at the severe level
    > with no penalties to loyalty??

    As long as the regent doesn't also ignore a random event and a
    rival regent doesn't successfully agitate there. Looking at the section
    on "Law Holdings and Loyalty" in the Birthright Rulebook (page 47), a
    regent controlling law (0) in a province (0) does in fact control "all
    available law holdings" but neither "half but not all" nor "less than
    half" because zero equals itself and is not less than itself; thus two
    grades of loyalty change can be ignored.

    > Secondly, who controls trade routes the nations they pass through or the
    > guilds that set them up. Can a guild set up a trade route without
    > asking anybody.

    The guilds that set them up, and yes. Of course, they probably
    should ask the regents of the lands they pass through, since the owner of
    either terminus province can suppress the trade route by decree (if the
    ruler's law holding exceeds the guild holding) or spend RP to reduce the
    guild's chance of creating the route in the first place. (rulebook pp. 48,
    59-60)

    - --Ryan

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    darkstar
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    Raygun wrote:

    > First off, if a regent has a level zero law holding in the level zero
    > province he controls, can he/she tax the province at the severe level
    > with no penalties to loyalty??

    Well as there is really no one to rebel much against his rule I would
    say yes, although I have yet to see any player actually tax a 0 level
    province at severe rate.


    > Secondly, who controls trade routes the nations they pass through or the
    > guilds that set them up. Can a guild set up a trade route without
    > asking anybody. If not, can they do a diplomacy action to
    > each of the countries involved and get their permission without the two
    > countries having to expend a diplomacy to set it up??

    The guild.
    In my game I allow merchants to set up trade routes with asking anyone.
    Of course I also allow ruler to shut down trade routes if they want to,
    so it does pay to ask first. A trade route set up without asking could
    be considered smuggling if you like.


    > THirdly, does anybody runs a PBEM have any advice/utilites to make it
    > easier. I am really keen
    > to start up a PBEM or co-DM an existing one but I am not keen on
    > pen/paper to be my main resource!!

    Well personally I use very little paper in my game, I do virtually
    everything with my computer, some webpages to keep track of holdings,
    some dice, and a calculator. My best advise for keeping a pbem easier is
    to limit the number of players to something that you can handle.


    > Super laslty, anybody playing in Hamilton, specifically New Zealand??

    Heh another New Zealand. I was born over there, just stuck in the desert
    of Australia at the moment.

    - --
    Ian Hoskins

    e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
    Homepage: http://darkstar.cyberserv.com
    ICQ: 2938300

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    bloebick@juno.com (Benja
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    On Tue, 05 May 1998 19:46:59 +1200 Raygun writes:
    >Howdy Ho, you smell awful flowery today....
    >Two quickie questions...
    >
    >First off, if a regent has a level zero law holding in the level zero
    >province he controls, can he/she tax the province at the severe level
    >with no penalties to loyalty??

    Sure. Since they won't get any money, though, it won't make any
    difference how they tax it. ;)

    >
    >Secondly, who controls trade routes the nations they pass through or
    >the
    >guilds that set them up. Can a guild set up a trade route without
    >asking anybody. If not, can they do a diplomacy action to
    >each of the countries involved and get their permission without the
    >two
    >countries having to expend a diplomacy to set it up??
    >

    Well, by the rules, you can have 2 guilds somewhere, and then make the
    trade route. However, most landed regents will not take kindly to this
    without being asked, and may use a Decree action to stop it. So, it is
    probably best to use a diplomacy action to ensure the trade route will
    stand up.

    >THirdly, does anybody runs a PBEM have any advice/utilites to make it
    >easier. I am really keen
    >to start up a PBEM or co-DM an existing one but I am not keen on
    >pen/paper to be my main resource!!

    Uhm, no. Someone else was asking about this a while back, and there were
    lots of suggestions on what to do. The first and loudest suggestion was
    "Don't do it!!!" ;) followed by "Make a big set of spreadsheets or a
    database..."

    >
    >Lastly, is there anyone running a PBEM who needs a new player, esp.
    >the
    >Southern Coast of Anuire or the Rjuik Highlands.

    No idea. Sorry.

    >
    >Super laslty, anybody playing in Hamilton, specifically New Zealand??

    Nope, though I would like to!

    >
    >Cheers Big Ears
    >
    >Mr Hankey the Christmas Poo
    >(aka Raygun)
    >
    >
    Benjamin

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    Ryan B. Caveney
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    On Wed, 6 May 1998, Benjamin W Loebick wrote:

    >
    > On Tue, 05 May 1998 19:46:59 +1200 Raygun writes:
    > >Howdy Ho, you smell awful flowery today....
    > >Two quickie questions...
    > >
    > >First off, if a regent has a level zero law holding in the level zero
    > >province he controls, can he/she tax the province at the severe level
    > >with no penalties to loyalty??
    >
    > Sure. Since they won't get any money, though, it won't make any
    > difference how they tax it. ;)

    Not actually true. At the severe level, you have a 1/3 chance of
    getting one gold bar. The other two levels have no chance, so "severe" is
    actually the only interesting form of taxation of a province (0).

    - --Ryan

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