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  1. #1
    Tremiere
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    Elven Wizards

    In the Great Bay expansion the realm of Coullabhie is home to an elven wizard.
    Under that realm, it mentions that the wizard keeps the province levels down.
    Quote: "It is her influence that keeps the province levels in the realm at low
    numbers (in spite of the fact that as an elf wizard, these levels do not
    reduce the magic she can tap)."
    In this realm, it is understood that the regent (another female elf) is elven
    so she does not reduce the source levels with expansion. However, this
    statement says that all elven wizards can tap the maximum source from any
    province regardles of exansion.
    Have you guys already dealt with this? I was under the impression all wizards
    were unable to tap sources that have already been ruined by expansion (other
    than elven expansion).

  2. #2
    darkstar
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    Elven Wizards

    Tremiere wrote:
    >
    > In the Great Bay expansion the realm of Coullabhie is home to an elven wizard.
    > Under that realm, it mentions that the wizard keeps the province levels down.
    > Quote: "It is her influence that keeps the province levels in the realm at low
    > numbers (in spite of the fact that as an elf wizard, these levels do not
    > reduce the magic she can tap)."
    > In this realm, it is understood that the regent (another female elf) is elven
    > so she does not reduce the source levels with expansion. However, this
    > statement says that all elven wizards can tap the maximum source from any
    > province regardles of exansion.
    > Have you guys already dealt with this? I was under the impression all wizards
    > were unable to tap sources that have already been ruined by expansion (other
    > than elven expansion).

    I think was this is refering to is the fact that Elves do not effect the
    land in the same way that other races do and the source potential is not
    reduced, not that the Elven Wizard can tap lost source potential which
    of course she can not.

    It is also saying that the Sayer is a bit of a loner and does not want
    too many other Elves living in Coullabhie so uses her source holdings to
    oppose the ruling of any provinces.

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  3. #3
    Robert Harper
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    Elven Wizards

    I certainly agree, it is the type of development (elven/non-elven) that
    counts not the wizard. Source is a measurable phenomenon and is either
    there or not there, it won't be there for an elven wizard and not for a human.


    At 09:40 PM 4/18/98 EDT, Tremiere wrote:
    >In the Great Bay expansion the realm of Coullabhie is home to an elven wizard.
    >Under that realm, it mentions that the wizard keeps the province levels down.
    >Quote: "It is her influence that keeps the province levels in the realm at low
    >numbers (in spite of the fact that as an elf wizard, these levels do not
    >reduce the magic she can tap)."
    >snip<
    >I was under the impression all wizards
    >were unable to tap sources that have already been ruined by expansion (other
    >than elven expansion).

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  4. #4
    Pieter A de Jong
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    Elven Wizards

    At 01:17 PM 4/19/98 -0400, Robert Harper wrote:
    >I certainly agree, it is the type of development (elven/non-elven) that
    >counts not the wizard. Source is a measurable phenomenon and is either
    >there or not there, it won't be there for an elven wizard and not for a human.
    >
    Are you really sure about this. In the same Haven's of the Great Bay
    Expansion, there is the domain of Colin Shaefpate, a half elven wizard and
    pirate. If you read the description closely, his source holdings are
    unaffected by other holdings controlled by him. His holdings are not pure
    (or even mostly) elven, rather they are a human band of pirates.


    Pieter A de Jong
    Graduate Mechanical Engineering Student
    University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

  5. #5
    prtr02@scorpion.nspco.co
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    Elven Wizards

    - ----- Begin Included Message -----

    At 01:17 PM 4/19/98 -0400, Robert Harper wrote:
    >I certainly agree, it is the type of development (elven/non-elven) that
    >counts not the wizard. Source is a measurable phenomenon and is either
    >there or not there, it won't be there for an elven wizard and not for a human.
    >
    Are you really sure about this. In the same Haven's of the Great Bay
    Expansion, there is the domain of Colin Shaefpate, a half elven wizard and
    pirate. If you read the description closely, his source holdings are
    unaffected by other holdings controlled by him. His holdings are not pure
    (or even mostly) elven, rather they are a human band of pirates.

    - ----- End Included Message -----

    The infamous "Island Wizard rule" was snuck into Colin's realm description and
    should be ignored. It contradicts everything else written on the subject and
    defies BR "common sense". IMO this rule was written to help out the RW Colin's
    playtest character.

    Randax

  6. #6
    Memnoch
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    Elven Wizards

    There is also a possibility that Colin (the wizard, not the player)
    developed a realm spell similar to the one that Talinies regent mage
    developed to allow him to rule his source levels to their maximum potential
    based upon terrain in human held lands. This phenomenon should IMO remain
    unique to Colin the Wizard and not be held as gospel when it comes to
    working with PC wizards or even other NPC wizards. Unless, of course, they
    happen to steal the realm spell from Colin.

    Memnoch
    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Randall W. Porter@6550
    To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 1:12 PM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Elven Wizards


    >
    >----- Begin Included Message -----
    >
    >At 01:17 PM 4/19/98 -0400, Robert Harper wrote:
    >>I certainly agree, it is the type of development (elven/non-elven) that
    >>counts not the wizard. Source is a measurable phenomenon and is either
    >>there or not there, it won't be there for an elven wizard and not for a
    human.
    >>
    >Are you really sure about this. In the same Haven's of the Great Bay
    >Expansion, there is the domain of Colin Shaefpate, a half elven wizard and
    >pirate. If you read the description closely, his source holdings are
    >unaffected by other holdings controlled by him. His holdings are not pure
    >(or even mostly) elven, rather they are a human band of pirates.
    >
    >----- End Included Message -----
    >
    >The infamous "Island Wizard rule" was snuck into Colin's realm description
    and
    >should be ignored. It contradicts everything else written on the subject
    and
    >defies BR "common sense". IMO this rule was written to help out the RW
    Colin's
    >playtest character.
    >
    >Randax
    >************************************************* **************************
    >>'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
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