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04-13-1998, 03:08 AM #1LLwyedGuest
Hello. This is my first post to this forum as I had no idea it existed.
Fortunately my GM is subscribed and he recommended it to me. First of all let
me say that I am a part owner of two game/comic stores and am very involved in
AD&D. I was not interested in Birthright at all. I think I held the view of
many other AD&D players. It looked nice but the rules sounded complex and
"weird" to me. Now besides my narrow mindedness, which I have obviously since
overcome, I think that is the typical response most of my customers give me.
Now before anyone says I'm just a money grubbing schmuck, let me say that I
enjoy this game world more than any other I've played in the last 12 years. So
obviously this news of a re-launch in a year was not received well by me. I am
trying to promote this system in my stores! I was distressed because I can't
help TSR move their product (and ensure new goodies for me too) without the
actual material. So when I read that they would be re-printing the boxed set
yesterday I was very pleased. However I was trying to find ways that TSR could
ensure that the re-launch goes over well. I was thinking of what AEG did with
the card game Legend of the Five Rings. Now I know it isn't a directly related
product but the situation was similar. They had a fabulous product, sound
rules, fantastic art and just a good thing in general. However nobody wanted
to buy it because Magic was dominating the scene. So what did they do? They
decided to be more agressive. they probably weren't going to be successful
otherwise any way so they went to GenCon and gave away something like 10,000
free starter decks. I think Birthright should do something similar. Perhaps a
small softcover booklet with the main rules and a little bit of the history
(one of my favorite parts of Birthright) . Gamers come to my stores and they
love free stuff. They also like extra things to read. Now if TSR gives away
10,000 of these "pamphlet" like things and 1,000 people decide they like it.
That would have to be considered a success. I'm not talking about some cheaply
thrown together thing either. It would have to be a quality product.
I know thats a lot to digest but in my humble opinion Birthright is the best
world TSR has ever created. It is sound story wise and also rules wise. The
fact that people are afraid of new things and want to stick to Forgotten
Realms should not be held against Birthright. Sometimes people need help
seeing things differently and then they like what they see. I know I did.
04-13-1998, 04:04 AM #2Morgramen the MagicianGuest
> I know thats a lot to digest but in my humble opinion Birthright is the best
> world TSR has ever created.
I will say that TSR could reorganize the rules abit, possibly even publish a "beginners
guide" in the manner they did for the D&D setting a while back, that way players like
myself, (who have trouble learning by just reading the rules...I gotta play the thing
first) can open it up, read it, play it, and get more advanced as they learn.
> It is sound story wise and also rules wise. The
> fact that people are afraid of new things and want to stick to Forgotten
> Realms should not be held against Birthright. Sometimes people need help
> seeing things differently and then they like what they see. I know I did.
> I agree with you 100% on this. I had the BR box set on my shelf for nearly 2 years,
> and had only cracked it once...the day that I got it, and then I only looked at the
> pictures and said "Well it sure is a NICE looking book." Then I filed it & returned
> to my stationary collection. It was not until 2 weeks ago (shortly after finding this
> list & reading a few of the fabulous posts) that I decided to give BR a second look.
> Now I'm hooked!
I've been on the list for about 2 weeks, have joined 2 PBeMs, and am running out to the
Hobby Shop to search out the Books for Mage craft & Priests on payday! I was upset to
learn that the line was on hold too...but at least the wait will give me a chance to
Birthright is too vibrant, too exciting, and just plain old excellent a setting to just
"disappear." Even if TSR cut off the line tomorrow (Heaven forbid) I for one, would
Rule on, and just have to do allot more of the work myself!
I shall never again see the actual wall behind my realm maps again!
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