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  1. #1

    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    > I seem to rememebr (although I don't have my book in front of me and I
    > HAVE been known to be wrong before :) ) that Gnomes do not exits on
    > Cerilia, either as PC races or NPCs, or even as a "monster" class...they
    > aren't listed on the list of languages PC's can learn...if anyone can
    > correct me, feel free :)

    They're mentioned in King of the Giantdowns in the description of the
    populace of dwarf holds of the Silverheads.

    ".... dwarves and even a few gnomes..." I recall being their sole
    mention in the book.

    Personally, I say that they don't exist. That bit of the book is
    GM-Only, so there's no problems with players reading it (unless
    they've got the book too) and even if tales of gnomes did escape into
    the outside world, I'd rule that they were just a rumour, a myth, or
    even a misunderstanding concerning a family of dwarves that is only
    cleared up when the players receive a visit from Thorvikk Gnome, the
    elder and head of the family of secretive dwarf master-stonemasons.
    ;-)

    John.

    "Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then
    the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a
    different universe."
    "And now you kill the lambs," whispered Dardalion.
    "No, priest. No one pays for lambs."
    - David Gemmel, Waylander

  2. #2
    David Sean Brown
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    >
    > They exist and so do gnomes (but the little guys aren't //player// races)

    I seem to rememebr (although I don't have my book in front of me and I
    HAVE been known to be wrong before :) ) that Gnomes do not exits on
    Cerilia, either as PC races or NPCs, or even as a "monster" class...they
    aren't listed on the list of languages PC's can learn...if anyone can
    correct me, feel free :)

    Sean

  3. #3
    LordSchmit
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    Sean wrote:
    >I seem to rememebr (although I don't have my book in front of me and I
    >HAVE been known to be wrong before :) ) that Gnomes do not exits on
    >Cerilia, either as PC races or NPCs, or even as a "monster" class...they
    >aren't listed on the list of languages PC's can learn...if anyone can
    >correct me, feel free :)

    Okay, I'll try. (:

    Gnomes do exist on Cerilia. They're listed among the monsters on page 89 of
    the rulebook form the boxed set. They're there, but their not availible as a
    PC race. As for their not being listed on the language list...well....dragons
    aren't either, neither are sahuagin, or mermen, or treants or several other
    "monsters" that have spoken languages, but they do exist on Cerilia.

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    patera
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    Gnomes are listed as common monsters in the back of the birthright
    rulebook. The question is, why aren't they PC races? Are they too rare? Are
    they primitive? Are they hostile? Any thoughts?

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    > Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Unblooded regents - kobolds :)
    > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 2:38 PM
    >
    > >
    > > They exist and so do gnomes (but the little guys aren't //player//
    races)
    >
    > I seem to rememebr (although I don't have my book in front of me and I
    > HAVE been known to be wrong before :) ) that Gnomes do not exits on
    > Cerilia, either as PC races or NPCs, or even as a "monster" class...they
    > aren't listed on the list of languages PC's can learn...if anyone can
    > correct me, feel free :)
    >
    > Sean
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    Daniel McSorley
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    From: patera
    >Gnomes are listed as common monsters in the back of the birthright
    >rulebook. The question is, why aren't they PC races? Are they too rare? Are
    >they primitive? Are they hostile? Any thoughts?
    >
    I always use BR gnomes as being more secretive, hiding in the wooded
    hills ignoring the other species. Elves might know of them, to everyone
    else they are a rumor.
    Daniel McSorley
    mcsorley.1@osu.edu
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    LordSchmit
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    patera wrote:
    >Gnomes are listed as common monsters in the back of the birthright
    >rulebook. The question is, why aren't they PC races? Are they too rare? Are
    >they primitive? Are they hostile? Any thoughts?

    I wondered about that. At first I just thought it was because having
    Gnome regents would be kind of silly, but Halflings can be regents to, so
    that's not an answer.
    Perhaps they are simply rare and reclusive. They dwell in burrows very
    deep in the woods, and have barely any contact with PC races. Perhaps the
    elves know of them, but the human races consider them just fairy creatures.
    Or perhaps they are hostile little buggers. Maybe they are like the deep
    gnomes and live far beneath the earth, and only the dwarves and orogs know of
    them.
    Just a few ideas.

  7. #7
    Brandon Quina
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    > Gnomes are listed as common monsters in the back of the birthright
    > rulebook. The question is, why aren't they PC races? Are they too
    > rare? Are they primitive? Are they hostile? Any thoughts?

    In my version of Cerilia, gnomes are too seperate races. The first
    is called the Forest gnome. There almost considered a type of
    elf by the humans. There short, thin, have rounded ears, and dress/
    live alot like elves. There very insular, and would really only be
    PCs in an elf-only game.

    Rock Gnomes live in the hills of Dwarven lands, and are very rugged
    and strong like the Dwarves. There also very 'tinkerish', and often
    construct gadgets. Nothing like the Tinker gnomes of Kyrnn-- more
    like mideval 'inventors'. They are also very insular, and would
    only really be PCs in a dwarf-only game.

    Neither of the races were at Deismaar, and therefor cannot be
    blooded.



    Thats just my take on it all.



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  8. #8
    Phil Burge
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    Unblooded regents - kobolds :)

    David Sean Brown wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > They exist and so do gnomes (but the little guys aren't //player// races)
    >
    > I seem to rememebr (although I don't have my book in front of me and I
    > HAVE been known to be wrong before :) ) that Gnomes do not exits on
    > Cerilia, either as PC races or NPCs, or even as a "monster" class...they
    > aren't listed on the list of languages PC's can learn...if anyone can
    > correct me, feel free :)
    >
    > Sean
    >

    Although not mentioned as a PC race, Gnomes are listed in the Rulebook
    pp. 89 under "AD&D monsters in Cerilia" which lists appropriate
    creatures for a Birthright Campaign.

    Phil.

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