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  1. #41
    Jim Cooper
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    Unblooded Regents

    Tim Nutting wrote:
    >
    > In a world where magic exists the laws and precepts of our own "nonmagical"
    > history cannot wholy apply.

    Some very good stuff! Now, if you please, Mr. Nutting, would you post
    your views on regency and regency points ... :-D

    Darren

  2. #42
    Bret W. Davenport
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    Unblooded Regents

    First off, for Mr. Nutting, that was a very well written and intelligent
    posting. Regardless of whether or not there is agreement on all points, I
    found it a stimulant to the brain cells =)

    > The rulers of Aebyrnis are infused with the essence of the gods, and
    while
    > there may certainly have been "unblooded" rulers before Deismar, I
    > personally get the impression that the old gods were VERY present,
    > violating all known "laws" of the Planes and physically manifesting
    > themselves on a very regular basis. They had favored servants that, for
    > better or worse, were proxys (to use the Planescape definition - I am
    > speaking of a being that is chosen of a god, and infused with that beings
    > essence.) Now, in reading some PS stuff, it would seem that Cerilian
    > scions are not welcomed in the planes because of one little fact. They
    can
    > commit "bloodtheft" on proxys (On Hallowed Ground - the new Legends and
    > Lore). So, by this statement we can assume that any being infused with a
    > gods essence can be "blooded". So I submit that the definition of
    blooded
    > include any such proxy or favored being of a god. Now, just imagine what
    > would happen if a scion could slay an avatar...

    An interesting thought, to say the least. However, I would contend with
    the fact that any "proxy or favored being of a god" would be blooded. Many
    creatures/beings of other worlds hold this distinction, without the
    apparent affects that Cerilian Blooded maintain. Therefore, it would seem
    that there is some deeper tie that marks the Cerilian Blooded from just a
    revered servant. Now, as I don't have the rule books here with me at work,
    what would be an interesting thought is what would happen if the weapons
    that instill unblooded beings with the essence of the gods if used in
    slaying were to be brought to another plane or world and used on even a
    demi-god…

    > Indeed, the people of Aebyrnis live with a land that bleeds when nature
    is
    > destroyed, fairly reeling with the agony of every lost tree. They live
    in
    > a land where demi-gods (for lack of a better term) walk among them and
    > rule, and receive a form of worship. Theirs is a world that is torn by
    war
    > at all times, men agains men to be sure, but then again men against the
    > other forces as well. Theirs is a world where the survival of a nation
    > depends of swift and hopefully accurate decision making. Ummm.... since
    > when was the last time the U.S. did anything swiftly except go to war?

    - -rofl- Go to war swiftly? Are you sure you live in the U.S. of A? -grin-

    > How does this relate to unblooded regents? I suggest that there never
    was
    > such a thing before Deismar. All the rulers were of a species that was
    > favored by a very active god. Therefore each ruler was blessed by the
    > deity of the people, and he thus assumed the role of proxy. Thus only
    > those who were truly noble rulers has this power, bestowed directly by a
    > god upon rightful succession to the throne. We cannot know if there ever
    > were rulers disapproved of by the gods as we have no history of
    > pre-Deismar.

    Again, I do not agree with your assessment that a proxy or favored servant
    is, therefore, blooded. Before Deismar, it would be the hand of the gods
    themselves that altered the land, or instilled awe amongst the masses.
    Perhaps using the "regent" as a focal point, perhaps not. While priests
    and regents of other worlds can certainly be powerful and influential
    being, and while they may hold some favor with the gods, their powers wax
    and wane with the changing of the tides. Should a FR regent fall out of
    favor, he or she would be unable to call upon a reservoir of their own
    power to mold the land or mystically affect the masses. They would have to
    rely upon simple action. This is how it would have been for the Regents
    Pre-Deismar. They would be people of power and influence, but tangibly.
    And so it would also be with the post-Deismar unblooded rulers. They would
    be creatures of passion and might based on their own merits, not the
    essence of gods. Should their be some Kobold Warchief who conquers much of
    the world with the blessing of some beastly god, it would be at that gods
    whim, not for some reserve of power the kobold itself can call upon. And
    should that god lose its power, or find no more reason to favor the
    warchief, woe be it for that creature. Of course, I don't see some Kobold
    God rising to power with the ability to lead its masses to global victory,
    but that's only my own view on the possibility.

    At any rate, good letter and looking forward to your next spiel.

    Bret

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