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    jonathan.w.ingram@exgate
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    Rules question

    I've got an interesting dilemna, which may or may not have been covered
    on this list in the past.

    QUESTION
    How does a blooded, non-regent mage establish his/her first source to
    become a regent?

    RELEVANT FACTS
    Establishing a source requires regency points, which cannot be
    accumulated without controlling sources. Since the blooded mage has no
    regency points, it seems impossible for him to establish sources to
    become a regent.

    Opinions anyone? I would very much to see this problem cleared up in the
    upcoming rules revision....if this has been covered before, could
    someone please summarize for me?

    Thanks much!

    Jonathan

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    Daniel McSorley
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    Rules question

    If we have a FAQ, this needs to be on it. Here it is again.
    Action: Create holding. Cost: 1 GB. Gives you a holding(0).
    Action: Rule: Cost, 1 GB, variable RP. Actually, for a holding it is 1
    GB and RP equal to the desired level. For a prov, it's GB and RP equal to
    the desired level. But wait, there's more. "Ruling a holding or province
    from level 0 to level 1 costs 1 GB; no RPs must be spent."
    Sorry if that came out short, I pulled an all nighter last night and
    need sleep. BR first, though :)

    Daniel McSorley
    mcsorley.1@osu.edu
    >I've got an interesting dilemna, which may or may not have been covered
    >on this list in the past.
    >
    >QUESTION
    >How does a blooded, non-regent mage establish his/her first source to
    >become a regent?
    >
    >RELEVANT FACTS
    >Establishing a source requires regency points, which cannot be
    >accumulated without controlling sources. Since the blooded mage has no
    >regency points, it seems impossible for him to establish sources to
    >become a regent.
    >
    >Opinions anyone? I would very much to see this problem cleared up in the
    >upcoming rules revision....if this has been covered before, could
    >someone please summarize for me?
    >

  3. #3
    Geniver
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    Rules question

    No regency is required to create a holding (source). No regency is
    required to rule a holding (Source) from level 0 to level {See page 59 -
    Rule: The sentence before "Realm action" is the one you want.} 1. A
    level 1 Source generates 1 RP. Hold it for 2 turns and you have enough
    regency to raise it from level 1 to level 2. Hold it two more turns and
    you have enough regency to rule it from level 2 to level 3.

    The trick is to create a bunch of sources and rule them up
    simultaneously.

    jonathan.w.ingram@exgate.tek.com wrote:
    >
    > I've got an interesting dilemna, which may or may not have been covered
    > on this list in the past.
    >
    > QUESTION
    > How does a blooded, non-regent mage establish his/her first source to
    > become a regent?
    >
    > RELEVANT FACTS
    > Establishing a source requires regency points, which cannot be
    > accumulated without controlling sources. Since the blooded mage has no
    > regency points, it seems impossible for him to establish sources to
    > become a regent.
    >
    > Opinions anyone? I would very much to see this problem cleared up in the
    > upcoming rules revision....if this has been covered before, could
    > someone please summarize for me?
    >
    > Thanks much!
    >
    > Jonathan
    >
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    Jonathan Picklesimer
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    Rules question

    On Thu, 5 Feb 1998 jonathan.w.ingram@exgate.tek.com wrote:

    > QUESTION
    > How does a blooded, non-regent mage establish his/her first source to
    > become a regent?
    >
    > RELEVANT FACTS
    > Establishing a source requires regency points, which cannot be
    > accumulated without controlling sources. Since the blooded mage has no
    > regency points, it seems impossible for him to establish sources to
    > become a regent.
    >
    ctually, if you read the create holding domain action, and the rule domain
    action, it does not cost any RP to create a holding 0, just 1 GB, and
    ruling a hloding 0 to a holding 1, only costs 1GB, no RP. So, you can
    "roll your own" sources, it just takes a little while!

    Jonathan

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    Rules question

    > QUESTION
    > How does a blooded, non-regent mage establish his/her first source to
    > become a regent?
    >
    > RELEVANT FACTS
    > Establishing a source requires regency points, which cannot be
    > accumulated without controlling sources. Since the blooded mage has no
    > regency points, it seems impossible for him to establish sources to
    > become a regent.

    Create Holding action only requires gold (2000 gp), not RP's.

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    Tim Nutting
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    >RELEVANT FACTS
    >Establishing a source requires regency points, which cannot be
    >accumulated without controlling sources. Since the blooded mage has no
    >regency points, it seems impossible for him to establish sources to
    >become a regent.

    Actually, any blooded character can sacrifice a blood point to gain 10 RP.
    Now that I start looking for it I can't find it. One of my players found
    this in the rulebook, I'll ask around, but I'm pretty sure its in there.

    This may not be allowed since it stresses also that "only regents collect
    regency points". Choice of an individual DM?

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    Bondman
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    Rules question

    > Actually, any blooded character can sacrifice a blood point to gain 10
    RP.
    > Now that I start looking for it I can't find it. One of my players found
    > this in the rulebook, I'll ask around, but I'm pretty sure its in there.

    Is this a rule? I don't recall ever reading it...hmmm. Does anyone else
    know about this one?
    If so, please tell me where I can find info on this...thanks.
    Bondman

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    Mark A Vandermeulen
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    Rules question

    On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Bondman wrote:

    > > Actually, any blooded character can sacrifice a blood point to gain 10
    > RP.
    > > Now that I start looking for it I can't find it. One of my players found
    > > this in the rulebook, I'll ask around, but I'm pretty sure its in there.
    >
    > Is this a rule? I don't recall ever reading it...hmmm. Does anyone else
    > know about this one?
    > If so, please tell me where I can find info on this...thanks.
    > Bondman

    Well, its not so much a rule really, as a consequence. It states somewhere
    that if a regent does not have enough RP for something, the remainder of
    the RP gets taken out of his BS, at a rate of 10 RP per one BS. I think
    its in the section on not responding to random events, but I'm not
    certain.

    Mark VanderMeulen
    vander+@pitt.edu

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    Memnoch
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    Actually, the ruling comes from the Book of Priestcraft under the
    Investiture rules. See the Recognition Investiture ceremony Page 78-9.. The
    actual example is at the top of page 79 in the first column... 1st paragraph
    (not the one continuing from the previous page)...


    Memnoch
    Prince of House Sideath
    High Mage of Tuarhievel
    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Mark A Vandermeulen
    To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 4:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Rules question


    >
    >
    >On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Bondman wrote:
    >
    >> > Actually, any blooded character can sacrifice a blood point to gain 10
    >> RP.
    >> > Now that I start looking for it I can't find it. One of my players
    found
    >> > this in the rulebook, I'll ask around, but I'm pretty sure its in
    there.
    >>
    >> Is this a rule? I don't recall ever reading it...hmmm. Does anyone else
    >> know about this one?
    >> If so, please tell me where I can find info on this...thanks.
    >> Bondman
    >
    >Well, its not so much a rule really, as a consequence. It states somewhere
    >that if a regent does not have enough RP for something, the remainder of
    >the RP gets taken out of his BS, at a rate of 10 RP per one BS. I think
    >its in the section on not responding to random events, but I'm not
    >certain.
    >
    >Mark VanderMeulen
    >vander+@pitt.edu
    >
    >************************************************* **************************
    >>'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
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  10. #10
    Tim Nutting
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    Rules question

    > Memnoch
    > Prince of House Sideath
    > High Mage of Tuarhievel

    Thanks! I've been looking for that!

    Tim Nutting
    Azrai's minion

    :)

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