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01-26-1998, 01:04 AM #1David Sean BrownGuest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
> Okay: Paladins collect regency from temple holdings only (full amount).
> Question: Why?
> IMO a paladin would not be preaching on the pulpit ... what does
> everyone else think?
You have misread this a bit. You will note that under law, warriors gain
full regence for law holdings. A creful look in the PHB will show you
that warrior is not a class, but a heading under which falls fighter,
paladin and ranger. Thus paladins and rangers get full regency for law
holdings plus temple/guild as appropriate.
Sean
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01-26-1998, 05:31 PM #2Ed StarkGuest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
At 04:26 PM 1/25/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Okay: Paladins collect regency from temple holdings only (full amount).
>Question: Why?
>IMO a paladin would not be preaching on the pulpit ... what does
>everyone else think?
>
>P.S. Same goes for rangers & guilds ...
>P.P.S. Okay, Ed & Carrie @ WotC, is there an official explanation?
>
>Darren
>
When I reviewed your question and looked on page 41 of the Rulebook, I made
the same mistake you may have. Paladins (and rangers) are Warriors (as are
fighters). All Warriors gain full regency from Law and Province levels.
Paladins gain regency from Temple holdings AS WELL. Rangers gain full
regency from Guilds IN ADDITION to their Warrior benefits.
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Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com
(soon to be http://www.tsr.com)
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01-26-1998, 06:01 PM #3c558382@showme.missouri.Guest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Randall W. Porter@6550 wrote:
> An option would be to allow temple regents to "lend" temple sources to another
> as mages can do(outlined in BoM). These seems to work with the power of the
> land. IMO it would be a lot harder to "lend" or "borrow" the faith your
> followers have in you.
It wouldn't have to be borrowing. A Paladin regent with a lieutenant
who is a blooded Priest should install his buddy in his church hierarchy
so that he is part of what the followers have faith in. No one suppoesed
in the middle ages that because your bishop was appointed by the king
instead of the Pope, your sacraments were less sacramental, &c.
Obviously bringing some guy off the street won't work.
Kenneth Gauck
c558382@showme.missouri.edu
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01-27-1998, 01:33 AM #4DURKS 95Guest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
Paladins do get FULL regency from both law and temple holdings. I also think
that the best way to keep the temple powerful with a Paladin at the helm is
to, of course, have a Priest Liuetenant.
Derek
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01-28-1998, 05:26 PM #5prtr02@scorpion.nspco.coGuest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
A few posts proposed that a temple with a Paladin regent should just have
a Priest lt. to cast domain-shaking realm spells, excommunicate kings and
emperors and declare holy wars. Bah. Why would such a powerful heirophant
play 2nd fiddle to some glorified knight? (tradition maybe) As pointed out
by Legends of the Hero Kings, the people follow the most glorious hero they
can find. If the real power in the temple is the priest, the people will
realise it over time and he'll become the true regent via the great captain
mechanism given in the random event of the same name.
You could, of course reverse this situation and have a Pal sway the people away
from a Priest regent who sits around doing nothing.
I'd make a Pal regent work overtime slaying enemies of the faith to keep a
Priest lt. who's blessing the army before the great war, declaring holy wars
and excommunicating kings from taking over the hearts of the people- and the
church.
Randax
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01-29-1998, 04:24 AM #6DURKS 95Guest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
Well the paladin that I run is a major power (though the priest is higher
level). And has 127 honor. Honor enough that bards across the lands sing songs
about me.
Derek
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01-31-1998, 06:01 PM #7c558382@showme.missouri.Guest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Randall W. Porter@6550 wrote:
> As pointed out by Legends of the Hero Kings, the people follow the
> most glorious hero they can find. If the real power in the temple is
> the priest, the people will realise it over time and he'll become the
> true regent via the great captain mechanism given in the random event of
> the same name.
There no saying that the priest you bring in has to be more glorious than
you. The real measure of ability to rule is your birthright, that is your
Blood Strength. If a Paladin with a minor blood line (say 18 pts) were to
have a lieut with a higher blood strength (say above 25), then I see a
problem down the road. If Assan ibn Daouta (Khinasi Paladin ruler of
Elinie major bloodline of 47 Ba) wanted to bring the Life and Protection
of Avanalae under his protection (maybe Fhylie the Sword belives that
unless the people of Elinie embrace the teachings of Cuiraecen, the Gorgon
will make short work of the land in a comming rampage) In such an event,
it would take some real powerhouse of a priest to be any threat to Daouta.
Your allies and lieuts should be weaker than you (level is covered in the
henchem rules modified by blood) but a lieut with a much higher blood
strength should really be a "page" kind of relationship. You both know he
will move along when he gets strong enough, but until then he hopes to
advance in level, knowledge, make contacts, develope leads, &c, &c.
By the same token there is no reason a scribe (sages and specialists)
couldn't be High Priest if he had the bloodstrength. I would imagine such
a temple would concentrate during his tenure on administrative and
organizational issues.
Kenneth Gauck
c558382@showme.missouri.edu
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01-31-1998, 08:56 PM #8prtr02@scorpion.nspco.coGuest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Randall W. Porter@6550 wrote:
> As pointed out by Legends of the Hero Kings, the people follow the
> most glorious hero they can find. If the real power in the temple is
> the priest, the people will realise it over time and he'll become the
> true regent via the great captain mechanism given in the random event of
> the same name.
There no saying that the priest you bring in has to be more glorious than
you. The real measure of ability to rule is your birthright, that is your
Blood Strength. If a Paladin with a minor blood line (say 18 pts) were to
have a lieut with a higher blood strength (say above 25), then I see a
problem down the road. If Assan ibn Daouta (Khinasi Paladin ruler of
Elinie major bloodline of 47 Ba) wanted to bring the Life and Protection
of Avanalae under his protection (maybe Fhylie the Sword belives that
unless the people of Elinie embrace the teachings of Cuiraecen, the Gorgon
will make short work of the land in a comming rampage) In such an event,
it would take some real powerhouse of a priest to be any threat to Daouta.
I don't think bloodline strength is the only factor. BR regents are supposed
to be Hero Kings. If Daouta sits around doing nothing, while the High Priest
of Life and Protection is casting realm spells, leading the armies and
embarking on kingdom-saving adventures, this Lt. is the de facto regent and
should be made such.
Randax
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02-01-1998, 03:52 AM #9c558382@showme.missouri.Guest
Rules Question - Paladin Regenc
On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Randall W. Porter@6550 wrote:
> I don't think bloodline strength is the only factor. BR regents are supposed
> to be Hero Kings. If Daouta sits around doing nothing, while the High Priest
> of Life and Protection is casting realm spells, leading the armies and
> embarking on kingdom-saving adventures, this Lt. is the de facto regent and
> should be made such.
I cannot concieve of an unending crop of hero-kings. I think people are
mostly idiots, and the few compitant ones among them are ignored, locked
up, or hated. Most realms are, in my opinion, poorly run and sadly
governed. The hero-king is an ideal my players should aspire to. The
poor little Overthane in Baruk-Azhik looks out and sees civil war in
Rhormarch, malaise in Coeranys, and a usurper in Osoerde. Hardly a happy
example of hero-kings. He is left with few allies and must forge ahead on
the basis of his own heroism. Too bad there are no hero-kings to pick up
the pieces there and ally with the Overthane. (hint-hint players)
Kenneth Gauck
c558382@showme.missouri.edu
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