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11-06-1997, 11:05 PM #1James RuhlandGuest
Closely related languages and r
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> I was wondering if the written languages of Low Brecht and High Brecht
are
> close enough that if you speak them both you can write them both with one
> "Read/Write" proficieny? How about Anuirean and Andu?
Probably not fluently...I'd say you could read it (same way I can read
Beowulf or Chaucer without translation...if I've got the time to pick
through it), but it would be hard to write it. Typically, linguistic drift
is less prevalent/noticeable in written form than it is in spoken form.
Might give a Read/Write proficiency a penalty when dealing with old texts,
or just make it take longer to read the stuff.
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11-07-1997, 01:56 AM #2Bill SeurerGuest
Closely related languages and r
> Probably not fluently...I'd say you could read it (same way I can
> read
> Beowulf or Chaucer without translation...if I've got the time to
> pick
> through it), but it would be hard to write it. Typically,
> linguistic drift
> is less prevalent/noticeable in written form than it is in spoken
> form.
> Might give a Read/Write proficiency a penalty when dealing with
> old texts,
> or just make it take longer to read the stuff.
Yeah, but the kicker in this case is that the person in question
**already knows how to speak both languages**. If they used essentially
the same alphabet I think that one read/write slot might handle both.
Of course this is an oddity of the proficiency system. It is unlikely
that you would learn to speak an essentially "dead" language like High
Brecht without learning to read and write it because there aren't many
(if any) native speakers around.
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11-08-1997, 05:56 PM #3Mark A VandermeulenGuest
Closely related languages and r
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Bill Seurer wrote:
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> Yeah, but the kicker in this case is that the person in question
> **already knows how to speak both languages**. If they used essentially
> the same alphabet I think that one read/write slot might handle both.
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> Of course this is an oddity of the proficiency system. It is unlikely
> that you would learn to speak an essentially "dead" language like High
> Brecht without learning to read and write it because there aren't many
> (if any) native speakers around.
>
I would rule that they both use the same alphabet, and so therefore can
both be read/writen with the same proficiency. Actually, I rule that for a
dead language, you actually have to FIRST aquire the Read/Write
Proficiency with that language, and only THEN can you learn to speak it
with anything like fluency.
Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu
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11-10-1997, 11:47 AM #4FRANKEN*RCGuest
Closely related languages and r
> I was wondering if the written languages of Low Brecht and High Brecht are
> close enough that if you speak them both you can write them both with one
> "Read/Write" proficieny? How about Anuirean and Andu?
Nope, HIgh Brecht does look like Karamhul(the dwarven language)
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11-10-1997, 07:08 PM #5David Sean BrownGuest
Closely related languages and r
On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, FRANKEN*RC wrote:
> > I was wondering if the written languages of Low Brecht and High Brecht are
> > close enough that if you speak them both you can write them both with one
> > "Read/Write" proficieny? How about Anuirean and Andu?
I would think it would be akin to learning middle english and modern
english. While the two are related, and knowing one you may be able to
[puzzle out some of the others, you would really need to have learned the
language separatly to really understand what they are talking about
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Nope, HIgh Brecht does look like Karamhul(the dwarven language)
Where is this from?
Sean
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11-13-1997, 06:20 AM #6dsolieGuest
Closely related languages and r
David Sean Brown wrote:
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> On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, FRANKEN*RC wrote:
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> > > I was wondering if the written languages of Low Brecht and High Brecht are
> > > close enough that if you speak them both you can write them both with one
> > > "Read/Write" proficieny? How about Anuirean and Andu?
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> I would think it would be akin to learning middle english and modern
> english. While the two are related, and knowing one you may be able to
> [puzzle out some of the others, you would really need to have learned the
> language separatly to really understand what they are talking about
I'm wondering about Rjuric (sp) and Anuirean...I remember somewhere it
saying they use the same alphabet...As a DM I allow any PC who can speak
both, only to need to know one...Any comments on this?
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