Languages of Anuire

[Adam Theo]

- --
hello, Adam Theo here,
i would certainly like that. could you just whip up a basic one?
thanks. i'm constantly trying to bring in more detail on stuff like
this to my camp.'s.

Daniel McSorley wrote:
> The chart he referred to is a big flow-chart type
> device, showing how closely related all the languages of Taladas are.
> Basically, two languages would be connected by a line. Each line between
> them decreases their similarity by 10%; so the closest two languages can be
> to each other is 90%. But, there could be these dots in between,
> representing a more distant connection. Each dot reduced the similarity by
> an additional 10%.
>>
> Of course, there aren't near as many languages on Cerilia as on Taladas.
> I could probably come up with something similar for Cerilia, and send it to
> anybody who wanted it. It would probably be a bitmap, as a text "drawing"
> would get confusing. If nobody asks for it, I won't even bother.
> Daniel McSorley
> mcsorley.1@osu.edu

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I would very much like a copy of this.

Adam Beard



Adam Theo wrote:
>
> --
> hello, Adam Theo here,
> i would certainly like that. could you just whip up a basic one?
> thanks. i'm constantly trying to bring in more detail on stuff like
> this to my camp.'s.
>
> Daniel McSorley wrote:
> > The chart he referred to is a big flow-chart type
> > device, showing how closely related all the languages of Taladas are.
> > Basically, two languages would be connected by a line. Each line between
> > them decreases their similarity by 10%; so the closest two languages can be
> > to each other is 90%. But, there could be these dots in between,
> > representing a more distant connection. Each dot reduced the similarity by
> > an additional 10%.
> >>
> > Of course, there aren't near as many languages on Cerilia as on Taladas.
> > I could probably come up with something similar for Cerilia, and send it to
> > anybody who wanted it. It would probably be a bitmap, as a text "drawing"
> > would get confusing. If nobody asks for it, I won't even bother.
> > Daniel McSorley
> > mcsorley.1@osu.edu
>
> adamtheo@usa.net Florida, USA
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[relve@Otdk.Helsinki.F]

> > Think of it, after the Roman Empire collapsed we saw the
> > birth of
> > several languages based on Latin: Spanish, French, Italian,
> > Portuguese, Romanian and Provencal.
> > It has already been 500 years since the Anuirean Empire collapsed
> > and I would think that we would already be seeing the same thing here.
> > Therefore I have created a list of the languages that I think would exist
> in
> > Anuire, and where they are located.
> >

> That's a good idea; but remember that Anuire is barely bigger than France,
> so I'm not sure that this many lingos are necessary (of course, in the
> Middle Ages, isolation meant the proliferation of all kinds of dialects,
> and only the rise of the modern nation state and improved commo aleviated
> that trend).

I'd like to add: The languages that were born after the collapse of
Romain Empire weren't just dialects of latin - they were based both
on latin and on the language of the tirbes that settled in the former
Roman Empire.

Concerning the dialects of Anuire and spending nwp slots on them:

- ---Anuire is small and most of its kingdoms are not isolated
(consider river Maesil )
- ---habitants are still Anuireans
- ----Although the Empire has collapsed "pure" Anuirean should be still
in use as "language of nobility and trade"

so I wouldn't force my players to spend slots on dialects of Anuirean
- - they could find the language peculiar in some palces but they would
be still able to understand it quite well.

I agree that there are isolated places in Anuirea that could have a
language that a "normal" Anuirean wouldn't understand. Consider for
example Dhoesone a conquered land which is next to Rjurik kingdom,
Thuarhievel and Thurazor and rather far away from the heart of
Anuire.

All this IMHO of course

KaaRel

[Trizt]

On 11-Nov-97, Bearcat (lcgm@elogica.com.br) wrote about Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] -
Languages of Anuire:
- ->>Your basic thought isn't that bad, but Anuire isn't that large (If you too
- ->>have missed it, that scale on the map isn't metric miles, so anuire isn't
- ->much
- ->>larger than maybe France and we do know that there isn't many languages)
and
- ->>many of those languages had a history before Roman empire.
- -> You have a point, but if one takes a look at the map of Europe it is
- ->apparent that many of the romance languages developed as a reaction to
- ->geographical isolation. An example of this is the Pyrenees range that
- ->separates France from Spain. This is what I use to justify the Peninsular
- ->and Talin languages.

Yes, isolation does quite much, but in Anuire/Cerilia is still quite small and
IMO the time since Andu was the languge in Anuire is quite short and there is
quite natural passages around/between the isolation terrain. The diversion
between the Roman languages is older than the empire with the same name. So
many diversions as you suggested sounded quite much, two or mayb as many as
three dialects of Anuirean could be ok.
If you look at the map of Anuire that the mountain range in the west connects
well with the northen forest and in that way and makes a good boarder between
two halfs of the Anuire, the plain lands and the forest/mountain lands. As you
see there is a quite easy access from Dhoesone to Brosengae without any other
races which divides the are even more. This (IMO) would make that the
influence from Dhoesone would be the strongest one in the area, as the western
area is in close range for Rjuvik rading parties and could quite easliy form
new settelments in the area which with time will/have assimilated as the
Rjuven did in Dhoesone. In south east there isn't any larger settelmetns of
none humans which would divide the area more, but there is a high population
of nonehumans in the eastmost parts of the Aelvinnwoods which lessens the
contact with northwest part of Anuire. So it seems like it would be natural
with only two dialects in Anuire.



//Trizt of Ward^RITE

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[Ed Stark]

At 12:52 PM 11/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>On a light note, our group decided, one evening when it was late and we
>were getting wacky, that Ancient Halfling was in fact a language composed
>of a combination of hitsies* and windmill kicks. It gives a whole new
>meaning to "getting a lecture in Ancient Halfling."
>
>Mark VanderMeulen
>vander+@pitt.edu
>
>*"hitsies" is another word for "hits" only much funnier at 2:00 am.
>

Ahem. Ah-ha. Heh, heh. BWHA-HA-HAH-HA-HA-WHUA-HA-HA ... gasp, gasp, hee-he.

Okay, you actually made me sit at my computer and laugh. Good one.


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