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  1. #1
    Neil Barnes
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    Bloodlines.

    Okay, while reading the BoM last night something occurred to me. What
    happened to Reynir, Masela, Brenna & Vorynn's divine power?

    Anduiras left behind a true bloodline and some pretty impressive
    siesegh. Basaia left behind a Huge Siesegh, while Azrai left behind a
    slew of true bloodlines.

    But we've seen no evidence for True Bloodlines of the other gods, or
    Siesegh or what ever. They don't seem to have left particularly more
    normal strength bloodlines behind, so what happened?

    Any thoughts?

    neil

    chuck.taine@lsh.org

  2. #2
    Daniel McSorley
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    Bloodlines.

    > From: Neil Barnes
    >
    > Okay, while reading the BoM last night something occurred to me. What
    > happened to Reynir, Masela, Brenna & Vorynn's divine power?
    >
    > Anduiras left behind a true bloodline and some pretty impressive
    > siesegh. Basaia left behind a Huge Siesegh, while Azrai left behind a
    > slew of true bloodlines.
    >
    > But we've seen no evidence for True Bloodlines of the other gods, or
    > Siesegh or what ever. They don't seem to have left particularly more
    > normal strength bloodlines behind, so what happened?
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > neil
    >
    > chuck.taine@lsh.org
    >
    There are Siesgh for the other dieties, they just may not have been found
    yet.
    I thought about this for a little while, and it could be due to history.
    There's been 1500 years, give or take, of bloodtheft and marriage going on.
    In bloodtheft, the "donor's" line is gone, and his strength is passed on.
    Since the Gorgon ( among others) has been doing this for centuries, his
    line of Azrai is strong, while he has culled many other bloodlines.
    When two blooded individuals have a child, only the stronger between the
    parents is expressed. This isn't done by strength (ie great, tainted,
    whatever ), but by the points, so a "minor" bloodline by name could be
    stronger numerically than a great.
    Also, the Anuireans took over a huge chunk of the continent for part of
    its history. During this time, many bloodlines could have fallen in battle
    or afterward, increasing the conqueror's strength. Not only awnshegh take
    part in bloodtheft.
    After the conquest, the native rulers would have declined in power, or
    even married commoners, diluting their blood. Then, when the Anuireans
    withdrew, it fell to those of weaker bloodline to rule. A lot of rulers in
    Brecht lands especially are new to the throne, and come from only
    moderately powerful bloodlines.
    I would say, though, that we haven't seen the Vos yet. They were never
    completely conquored, and may still retain much strength.
    That may at least partly explain it, though of course I pretty much made
    it up from some small details.
    Daniel McSorley
    mcsorley.1@osu.edu

  3. #3
    abeard@zebra.net (Adam B
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    Bloodlines.

    Neil Barnes wrote:
    >
    > Okay, while reading the BoM last night something occurred to me. What
    > happened to Reynir, Masela, Brenna & Vorynn's divine power?
    >
    > Anduiras left behind a true bloodline and some pretty impressive
    > siesegh. Basaia left behind a Huge Siesegh, while Azrai left behind a
    > slew of true bloodlines.
    >
    > But we've seen no evidence for True Bloodlines of the other gods, or
    > Siesegh or what ever. They don't seem to have left particularly more
    > normal strength bloodlines behind, so what happened?
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > neil
    >
    > chuck.taine@lsh.org
    >
    Perhaps they are in another land. Say Anduria.

    Adam

  4. #4
    James Ruhland
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    Bloodlines.

    >
    > Okay, while reading the BoM last night something occurred to me. What
    > happened to Reynir, Masela, Brenna & Vorynn's divine power?
    >
    > Anduiras left behind a true bloodline and some pretty impressive
    > siesegh. Basaia left behind a Huge Siesegh, while Azrai left behind a
    > slew of true bloodlines.
    >
    > But we've seen no evidence for True Bloodlines of the other gods, or
    > Siesegh or what ever. They don't seem to have left particularly more
    > normal strength bloodlines behind, so what happened?
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    It could be that their major heros (the dudes who would have recieved true
    bloodlines) either died in the battle or shortly theirafter. It could also
    be that their bloodlines were diminished over time (via the several ways
    that can happen, through inheritance, domain fragmentation, etc.) and that
    Roele's decendents were just particularly skilled & lucky in keeping their
    bloodline strong until the end. Also, since Anurian's ruled most of Cerilia
    for centuries, they had more of an oportunity to strengthen their
    bloodlines (thus Avan and Boerune), while the disposesed scions of the
    other major civilizations did not; their bloodlines would have stagnated or
    even atrophied. Also, as to the Siesegh of other dieties; I would imagine
    that the ones listed in the BoM are just examples, not a comprehensive
    list. Since the Roele's dominated Cerilia, they had more of an oportunity
    to create powerful items with Anduiras' junk; but note that this collection
    is all scattered and lost now. Such collections probably were not possible
    for other scions, since they didn't have as wide a reach as the Roele's,
    they had to make do with whatever fell into their hands, and the stones
    remained scattered.

  5. #5
    prtr02@scorpion.nspco.co
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    Bloodlines.

    Excellent, logical post by Daniel McSorley. I'm certainly going to
    incorporate it into my Cerilian history.

    Don't look for Vos bloodlines to be much stronger than the Anuirean-dominated
    peoples though. The Vos spend so much time fighting amongst themselves, and the
    Priests of Belenik redistribute bloodlines often enough, that their lines have
    been severly weakened too. Though a long hidden Great or True bloodline of
    XXXXX(pick your fav dead god) rising in the Vos lands to unite them would make
    an excellent campaign- the Raven not withstanding.

    Randax

  6. #6
    Daniel McSorley
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    Bloodlines.

    > From: Randall W. Porter@6550
    >
    > Excellent, logical post by Daniel McSorley. I'm certainly going to
    > incorporate it into my Cerilian history.
    >
    Wow, ego boosting supreme. Thanks a lot.
    I'm really writing to warn you guys. Yesterday, Sepsis posted a link to a
    place where you could download Age of Empires. Well, I haven't got that
    yet, but I did get the AI Wars game from the same site, and some kind of
    program error crashed my computer. It had me scared for a while, too. SO,
    if you do try __ANY__ software from that download site, be real careful,
    they obviously don't have the resources to test every program they publish
    a link to.

    Daniel McSorley
    mcsorley.1@osu.edu

  7. #7
    FRANKEN*RC
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    Bloodlines.

    > > Okay, while reading the BoM last night something occurred to me. What
    > > happened to Reynir, Masela, Brenna & Vorynn's divine power?
    > >
    > > Anduiras left behind a true bloodline and some pretty impressive
    > > siesegh. Basaia left behind a Huge Siesegh, while Azrai left behind a
    > > slew of true bloodlines.

    if i remember corectly there is a piece of jewelry called brena's
    favor (+25 on bloodstrenght), a mysterious mage, called the wizard
    caries a staff, called calamity, which carries some powerful stones
    of Voryn.
    And of course there is still the fact that the place where Mt Deismar
    used to be is now sea. hope you have yer diving gear ready. :)
    >
    But we've seen no evidence for True Bloodlines of the other gods, or
    > > Siesegh or what ever. They don't seem to have left particularly more
    > > normal strength bloodlines behind, so what happened?
    > >
    > > Any thoughts?
    > >
    > > neil
    > >
    > > chuck.taine@lsh.org
    > >

  8. #8
    Brett Lang
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    Bloodlines.

    Personally my "take" on this is a simple one. The continent of Cerilia is
    huge, and TSR can't write up everything. Simply put, they have
    concentrrated on Anuire and the bloodlines associated with it. As more
    products are released, I'm sure we will see more examples of these other
    bloodlines.

    In particular I like the recent comments concerning Ruornil's clergy.
    Below is a new blood ability of my own creation for Vorynn.


    Divine Magic (minor, major, great)
    Derivation: Vorynn

    This power is availabe only to those blooded scions of Great or True
    bloodlines of the old Lord of Magic, Vorynn. The blooded character is able
    to draw upon the powerful energies of his bloodline, thus enabling the
    scion to empower his own personal spellcasting abilities. At minor
    ability, anyone making a saving throw to escape the effects of a spell cast
    by the scion does so with a -2 penalty and a reduction in their magic
    resistance (if any) of 25%. If the scion himself must make a saving throw
    to escape or reduce the effects of a magical spell (or spell-like magical
    attack), he receives a +2 bonus to his saving throw. Major ability imposes
    a -4 saving throw penalty, a 50% reduction in the victum's magic resistance
    (if any), and grants the scion a saving throw bonus of +4 versus magic
    attack. At Great ability, divine magic inflicts a -6 saving throw penalty,
    a 75% reduction in the victum's magic resistance (if any), and grants the
    scion a saving throw bonus of +6 versus magical attack.


    So what do you all think ?

    Sweet water and light laughter until next.

    Brett Lang.
    aka, Warlock.

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