Priests of Eloele

[Ed Stark]

At 09:26 AM 11/2/97 +0100, you wrote:
>On 01-Nov-97, Tripp Elliott (kmelliot@erols.com) wrote about [BIRTHRIGHT] -
>Priests of Eloele:
>->Ok, I've got a question about Priests of Eloele.
>
>->Eloele's Priests gain the abilities of a Thief of half their level.
>->That's the rule, that's how it's stated in the Rulebook. Ok, one of the
>->"abilities" of all thieves is to draw regency from guilds and trade
>->routes. So, my question is, can Priests of Eloele draw Regency from
>->them?
>->My personal ruling is "you betcha they can", but I wanted to hear some
>->other opinions.

We went round and round on this at the office after one particular
playtest. I was playing a priest of Eloele who secretly ran a certain
thieves' guild (see HAVENS and, particularly, Muden, for that character). I
argued that, since she had thief abilities at half my level, she should be
able to collect RP from these sources.

Everyone else said "no," and I argued.

I was, however, eventually met with an argument I could accept. Priests of
Eloele gain thief abilities (PP, OL, etc.) at half their level of
experience. They can backstab, etc. They do not, however, gain the
advantages thieves have when running guilds because those are not,
technically, thief abilities--they're regent abilities linked to a
particular class. I know that might be splitting hairs, but it allowed me
to concede the argument.

She kept the guild, though ... ;-)

BTW: As always, you can run this anyway you want, but I strongly recommend
going with our "official" ruling here. When I did the math on my own high
priest/guildmaster's RP & GB collection after only a few modest domain
turns, she had enough power to take over Muden or use realm spells to blast
her enemies into oblivion.


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Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com

[James Ruhland]

>
> I was, however, eventually met with an argument I could accept. Priests
of
> Eloele gain thief abilities (PP, OL, etc.) at half their level of
> experience. They can backstab, etc. They do not, however, gain the
> advantages thieves have when running guilds because those are not,
> technically, thief abilities--they're regent abilities linked to a
> particular class. I know that might be splitting hairs, but it allowed me
> to concede the argument.
>
Good point...
>
> BTW: As always, you can run this anyway you want, but I strongly
recommend
> going with our "official" ruling here. When I did the math on my own high
> priest/guildmaster's RP & GB collection after only a few modest domain
> turns, she had enough power to take over Muden or use realm spells to
blast
> her enemies into oblivion.
>
Yah, but 1) she'd get the GB no matter what, and 2) RP collection usually
ends up being more of a function of Bloodline than Realm strength, anyhow.
So it might be she would've been that powerful regardless of the ruling.
>

[FRANKEN*RC]

> Ed Stark wrote:
> >
> > At 09:26 AM 11/2/97 +0100, you wrote:
> > >On 01-Nov-97, Tripp Elliott (kmelliot@erols.com) wrote about [BIRTHRIGHT] -
> > >Priests of Eloele:
> > >->Ok, I've got a question about Priests of Eloele.
> > >
> > >->Eloele's Priests gain the abilities of a Thief of half their level.
> > >->That's the rule, that's how it's stated in the Rulebook. Ok, one of the
> > >->"abilities" of all thieves is to draw regency from guilds and trade

>
> I'm playing that character in the BIG PBeM, as well as DMing a game at
> home. My personal take on it is that Priests of Eloele(Ela) should gain
> Regency from Guilds and TR's at half their value, and not be able to
> gain regency from Law Holdings. Law Holdings are just not "subtle
> enough" as one list member put it to really interest Ela's Priesthood,
> so as a trade off they get RP's from Guilds, but not 100%.
>
> Run this by your friends at TSR, and see what they think.
>
> Tripp

Well even if TSR ain't gonna use it I will! great sollution. :)

Ronald