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    Hail all,

    For those of you who don't use the war card system for battles. What do you use to represent the different units? I've been looking for counters or miniatures to use to represent the different units in birthright. Any ideas for some cost effective ones?
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    At 07:45 PM 3/22/2004 +0100, blitzmacher wrote:



    >What do you use to represent the different units? I've been looking

    >for counters or miniatures to use to represent the different units in

    >birthright. Any ideas for some cost effective ones?



    For large scale combat I`ve used little 1"x1" square "chits" cut from

    cardstock paper (nice and cheap) that can be written on and disposed of

    after play. Generally all that gets written on them is a unit number and

    arrows to indicate their facing (the system I use includes some stuff for

    flanking units, so I need facing for units) while other information on the

    units are kept on a separate piece of paper, but sometimes people have

    wanted to put more on them. It`s a good idea to mount them on a coin or

    use a little bit of adhesive on them (the gummy stuff one uses to mount

    posters works) so if someone tosses a book on the table the chits don`t get

    all blown off the map.



    Gary

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    Thanks geeman, about an hour after your post I found this site with some interesting cut outs for units.
    http://users.skynet.be/gwindel/index.html
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    At 08:52 PM 3/22/2004 +0100, blitzmacher wrote:



    > Thanks geeman, about an hour after your post I found this site with

    > some interesting cut outs for units.

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    >http://users.skynet.be/gwindel/index.html



    That`s a cool site. The drawings are a little cartoonish for my taste, but

    each to his/er own. In the past, I`ve had problems with "stand up"

    cardboard figures in that they are prone to falling over easily when people

    slam books closed or something. When I`ve used lead figures that`s worked

    out OK, but I`m not really into painting them, and I lost interest in

    portraying RPG combat using figures. (For more "pure" wargames, however,

    they still seem appropriate for some reason.)



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    blitzmacher said:

    > Hail all,For those of you who don`t use the war card system for

    > battles. What do you use to represent the different units? I`ve

    > been looking for counters or miniatures to use to represent the

    > different units in birthright. Any ideas for some cost effective ones?



    If you are going for wargaming then why stop half-way? GO all the way to a

    real and workable (and tested!) system: De Bellis Multitudinis (DBM).



    I use this and have been working on grading systems for Anuirean, Brecht,

    and Khinasi (Plains, Peninsular, and Island) militaries.



    The only thing it doesn`t handle is magic (and in my games there has not

    been a lot of magic on the battle field -anyway-), but some people tinker

    away on a fantasy version. In the rare instances in my games that a wizard

    shows up in a battle, I tend to treat them like a general with an

    artillery combat factor. I have been working on some other ideas, but they

    are only errant thoughts at the moment.



    Official DBM Page: http://www.richardbodleyscott.btinternet.co.uk/dbm.htm

    Another Pretty Good One: http://tetrad.stanford.edu/DBM.html



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    Another thought:

    There is a simpler version of DBM called De Bellis Antiquitas (DBA) (which

    can be sampled as an online game here: http://www.dbaol.com/).



    There is also a vaguely farcial version of DBA for fantasy games called

    The Hordes of the Things (HOTT).



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    DBA might be fine if you want to do it quick,BUT if you want to do it right do it Armati rules with 15mm units. www.og15s.com This is what im planning for my game and i think doing a battle in the course of a night adds excitement to the game.

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    bulletmagnet said:

    > DBA might be fine if you want to do it quick,BUT if you want to do it

    > right do it Armati rules with 15mm units. www.og15s.com This is what

    > im planning for my game and i think doing a battle in the course of a

    > night adds excitement to the game.



    I like DBM over Armati. It seems that, at least in this part of the world,

    I am not alone and there is no real alternative to DBx.



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