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10-22-1997, 05:10 PM #1
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At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
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>One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all the
>heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
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>
A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing on
this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
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10-22-1997, 05:49 PM #2hobbychest@pcsia.coGuest
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BI>One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all the
BI>heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place. Maybe a poster inset in
BI>DRAGON or some graphics on the TSR webpage.
I think that would be a great idea.
Robert Thomson
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10-23-1997, 02:36 AM #3Michael Andrew CullinghaGuest
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> A Book Of Bardcraft would be great especially given their standing in Bre=
> cht culture
> and the dislike held for them in Khinasi culture which, I expect, would =
> be covered by
> such a book. I second this wholeheartedly - could we please add it to =
> the wish list - again?
>
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> > At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
> > >
> > >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all =
> the
> > >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing on
> > this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
> >
> >
> > Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
> >
> > "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
> > the province of life or death;
> > the road to survival or ruin.
> > It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
> > -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
> >
> > BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
> > ************************************************** *********************=
A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
Mike
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10-23-1997, 01:24 PM #4HCD or SIR SPUD IGuest
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Greetings from a lurker,
> A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
> Lawcraft or Guildcraft book.
I agree that Bards are an important class in BR but I think that a book
written strictly for bards is a little too specific. The list has
talked of a Book of Law and a Book of Guilds and Book of this and that.
Personally, I think that if a Book of Whatever is released it should be
general enough to encompass several aspects of BR. The Book of
Magecraft covered one class but also covered magic of Aebrynnis. I
assume that the Book of Priestcraft will cover the priest class and also
the effect of priests in the overall scheme of things. Again, if a Book
of Whatever is released, I think it should be a general topic (like Book
of Guilds and Law) instead of a book for each specific class.
Sir Spud I
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10-23-1997, 03:49 PM #5Colleen SimpsonGuest
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A Book Of Bardcraft would be great especially given their standing in Bre=
cht culture
and the dislike held for them in Khinasi culture which, I expect, would =
be covered by
such a book. I second this wholeheartedly - could we please add it to =
the wish list - again?
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> At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
> >
> >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all =
the
> >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
> >
>
> >
>
> A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing on
> this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
>
>
> Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
>
> "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
> the province of life or death;
> the road to survival or ruin.
> It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
> -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
>
> BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
> ************************************************** *********************=
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> To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the =
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> 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
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10-25-1997, 12:56 AM #6Craig GreesonGuest
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HCD or SIR SPUD I wrote:
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> I agree that Bards are an important class in BR but I think that a book
> written strictly for bards is a little too specific. The list has
> talked of a Book of Law and a Book of Guilds and Book of this and that.
> Again, if a Book of Whatever is released, I think it should be a
> general topic (like Book of Guilds and Law) instead of a book for each
> specific class.
>
I agree with Sir Spud that, while bards are interesting, a Book of Bardcraft
would be a lot to devote to them. Perhaps a Book of Rogues/Guildholdings could
be published. This could cover bards, thieves, guilders, and general info. on
Guilds in Cerilia. A companion to this could be a Book of
Warriors/Lawholdings.
Regards
Craig
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10-26-1997, 04:31 PM #7Colleen SimpsonGuest
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A Book of Bardcaft would also cover the reactions of different cultures =
to bards. For instance, the difference between the way the Brecht treat =
bards and the way
Khinasi treat bards.
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> > A Book Of Bardcraft would be great especially given their standing =
in Bre=3D
> > cht culture
> > and the dislike held for them in Khinasi culture which, I expect, wou=
ld =3D
> > be covered by
> > such a book. I second this wholeheartedly - could we please add it =
to =3D
> > the wish list - again?
> >
> > ----------
> > > At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
> > > >
> > > >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of =
all =3D
> > the
> > > >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing=
on
> > > this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
> > >
> > > "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
> > > the province of life or death;
> > > the road to survival or ruin.
> > > It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
> > > -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
> > >
> > > BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
> > > ************************************************** *****************=
****=3D
>
> A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
> Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
> by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
> (although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
> Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
> a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
> between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
>
> Mike
> ************************************************** *********************=
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10-26-1997, 11:32 PM #8Ed StarkGuest
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At 08:36 PM 10/22/97 MDT, you wrote:
>A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
>Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
>by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
>(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
>Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
>a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
>between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
>
While I like bards very much myself (and have been making notes on bards in
BR for quite some time), don't you think they could fit into, say, a
GUILDCRAFT book? I mean, BoM covered all kinds of wizards and magicians,
and BoP will cover priests of all types--couldn't a "Book of Guildcraft"
cover all rogues--thieves, bards, guilders, and the like?
-- ->-- ->-- ->--@
Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com
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10-27-1997, 03:38 AM #9Michael Andrew CullinghaGuest
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> >A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
> >Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
> >by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
> >(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
> >Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
> >a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
> >between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
> >
> While I like bards very much myself (and have been making notes on bards in
> BR for quite some time), don't you think they could fit into, say, a
> GUILDCRAFT book? I mean, BoM covered all kinds of wizards and magicians,
> and BoP will cover priests of all types--couldn't a "Book of Guildcraft"
> cover all rogues--thieves, bards, guilders, and the like?
>
> -- ->-- ->-- ->--@
> Ed Stark
> Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
> Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
> TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com
Now that I stop and think, a guildcraft book that actually
encompasses bards on a nearly equal level would be great.
I guess my previous comment was written in haste without
really thinking about it. My players seemed to look right
over the bard, even though I think that it could be one
of the greatest classes in Cerilia. Rangers also could use
some coverage, possibly a la Aragorn...
I'll try and remember to think before engaging my fingers
next time...
Mike
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10-27-1997, 01:10 PM #10KAI BESTEGuest
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> At 08:36 PM 10/22/97 MDT, you wrote:
> >A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
> >Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
> >by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
> >(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
> >Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
> >a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
> >between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
> >
> While I like bards very much myself (and have been making notes on bards in
> BR for quite some time), don't you think they could fit into, say, a
> GUILDCRAFT book? I mean, BoM covered all kinds of wizards and magicians,
> and BoP will cover priests of all types--couldn't a "Book of Guildcraft"
> cover all rogues--thieves, bards, guilders, and the like?
That's a better idea than a book solely devoted to bards. This book
could expand and clarify trading rules (such as whether you need a
guild at each end of a trade route), rules for runnig spy
networks and covert operations etc in addition to class-related info.
Another nice thing would be a BOOK OF WARCRAFT (oops, no plaguerism
intended...). Basically, this could be a book for the landed regents
and fighters (which is, at least in Anuire, often the same). It could
contain information on fighters, sieges rules that *work*, and most
important, how to give landed rulers a break against the guilds.
just my 2 GB
Kai
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