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  1. #1

    Wish List

    At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
    >
    >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all the
    >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
    >

    >

    A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing on
    this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.


    Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)

    "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
    the province of life or death;
    the road to survival or ruin.
    It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
    -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

    BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html

  2. #2
    hobbychest@pcsia.co
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    BI>One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all the
    BI>heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place. Maybe a poster inset in
    BI>DRAGON or some graphics on the TSR webpage.

    I think that would be a great idea.

    Robert Thomson

  3. #3
    Michael Andrew Cullingha
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    > A Book Of Bardcraft would be great especially given their standing in Bre=
    > cht culture
    > and the dislike held for them in Khinasi culture which, I expect, would =
    > be covered by
    > such a book. I second this wholeheartedly - could we please add it to =
    > the wish list - again?
    >
    > ----------
    > > At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
    > > >
    > > >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all =
    > the
    > > >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
    > > >
    > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing on
    > > this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
    > >
    > >
    > > Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
    > >
    > > "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
    > > the province of life or death;
    > > the road to survival or ruin.
    > > It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
    > > -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
    > >
    > > BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
    > > ************************************************** *********************=

    A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
    Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
    by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
    (although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
    Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
    a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
    between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.

    Mike

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    HCD or SIR SPUD I
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    Greetings from a lurker,

    > A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
    > Lawcraft or Guildcraft book.

    I agree that Bards are an important class in BR but I think that a book
    written strictly for bards is a little too specific. The list has
    talked of a Book of Law and a Book of Guilds and Book of this and that.
    Personally, I think that if a Book of Whatever is released it should be
    general enough to encompass several aspects of BR. The Book of
    Magecraft covered one class but also covered magic of Aebrynnis. I
    assume that the Book of Priestcraft will cover the priest class and also
    the effect of priests in the overall scheme of things. Again, if a Book
    of Whatever is released, I think it should be a general topic (like Book
    of Guilds and Law) instead of a book for each specific class.

    Sir Spud I

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    Colleen Simpson
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    A Book Of Bardcraft would be great especially given their standing in Bre=
    cht culture
    and the dislike held for them in Khinasi culture which, I expect, would =
    be covered by
    such a book. I second this wholeheartedly - could we please add it to =
    the wish list - again?

    - ----------
    > At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
    > >
    > >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of all =
    the
    > >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
    > >
    >
    > >
    >
    > A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing on
    > this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
    >
    >
    > Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
    >
    > "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
    > the province of life or death;
    > the road to survival or ruin.
    > It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
    > -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
    >
    > BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
    > ************************************************** *********************=
    ****
    > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the =
    line
    > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
    >

  6. #6
    Craig Greeson
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    HCD or SIR SPUD I wrote:

    >
    > I agree that Bards are an important class in BR but I think that a book
    > written strictly for bards is a little too specific. The list has
    > talked of a Book of Law and a Book of Guilds and Book of this and that.

    > Again, if a Book of Whatever is released, I think it should be a
    > general topic (like Book of Guilds and Law) instead of a book for each
    > specific class.
    >

    I agree with Sir Spud that, while bards are interesting, a Book of Bardcraft
    would be a lot to devote to them. Perhaps a Book of Rogues/Guildholdings could
    be published. This could cover bards, thieves, guilders, and general info. on
    Guilds in Cerilia. A companion to this could be a Book of
    Warriors/Lawholdings.

    Regards
    Craig

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    Colleen Simpson
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    A Book of Bardcaft would also cover the reactions of different cultures =

    to bards. For instance, the difference between the way the Brecht treat =
    bards and the way
    Khinasi treat bards.

    - ----------
    > > A Book Of Bardcraft would be great especially given their standing =
    in Bre=3D
    > > cht culture
    > > and the dislike held for them in Khinasi culture which, I expect, wou=
    ld =3D
    > > be covered by
    > > such a book. I second this wholeheartedly - could we please add it =
    to =3D
    > > the wish list - again?
    > >
    > > ----------
    > > > At 05:16 PM 10/21/97 -0400, Alexander(Taragin@sprintmail.com)wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >One thing I think would be very useful would be a collection of =
    all =3D
    > > the
    > > > >heraldic symbols of the BR world in one place.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > A perfect subject to go in a "Book of Bardcraft". Sorry for pushing=
    on
    > > > this, but Bards need more coverage in BR, at least IMHO.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net (ICQ:3777956)
    > > >
    > > > "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
    > > > the province of life or death;
    > > > the road to survival or ruin.
    > > > It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
    > > > -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-
    > > >
    > > > BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html
    > > > ************************************************** *****************=
    ****=3D
    >
    > A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
    > Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
    > by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
    > (although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
    > Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
    > a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
    > between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
    >
    > Mike
    > ************************************************** *********************=
    ****
    > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the =
    line
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    >

  8. #8
    Ed Stark
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    At 08:36 PM 10/22/97 MDT, you wrote:
    >A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
    >Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
    >by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
    >(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
    >Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
    >a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
    >between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
    >
    While I like bards very much myself (and have been making notes on bards in
    BR for quite some time), don't you think they could fit into, say, a
    GUILDCRAFT book? I mean, BoM covered all kinds of wizards and magicians,
    and BoP will cover priests of all types--couldn't a "Book of Guildcraft"
    cover all rogues--thieves, bards, guilders, and the like?

    -- ->-- ->-- ->--@
    Ed Stark
    Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
    Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
    TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com

  9. #9
    Michael Andrew Cullingha
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    > >A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
    > >Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
    > >by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
    > >(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
    > >Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
    > >a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
    > >between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
    > >
    > While I like bards very much myself (and have been making notes on bards in
    > BR for quite some time), don't you think they could fit into, say, a
    > GUILDCRAFT book? I mean, BoM covered all kinds of wizards and magicians,
    > and BoP will cover priests of all types--couldn't a "Book of Guildcraft"
    > cover all rogues--thieves, bards, guilders, and the like?
    >
    > -- ->-- ->-- ->--@
    > Ed Stark
    > Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
    > Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
    > TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com

    Now that I stop and think, a guildcraft book that actually
    encompasses bards on a nearly equal level would be great.
    I guess my previous comment was written in haste without
    really thinking about it. My players seemed to look right
    over the bard, even though I think that it could be one
    of the greatest classes in Cerilia. Rangers also could use
    some coverage, possibly a la Aragorn...

    I'll try and remember to think before engaging my fingers
    next time...

    Mike

  10. #10
    KAI BESTE
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    > At 08:36 PM 10/22/97 MDT, you wrote:
    > >A Book of Bardcraft is a must I think, much more necessary than a
    > >Lawcraft or Guildcraft book. I just finished reading Taliesin,
    > >by Steven R. Lawrence, which covers the early Arthurian legends
    > >(although I previously hadn't heard of him in anything except
    > >Welsh history), and it presents an interesting view of how
    > >a bard may be used. Especially since I see many relationships
    > >between Birthright and Arthurian Legend.
    > >
    > While I like bards very much myself (and have been making notes on bards in
    > BR for quite some time), don't you think they could fit into, say, a
    > GUILDCRAFT book? I mean, BoM covered all kinds of wizards and magicians,
    > and BoP will cover priests of all types--couldn't a "Book of Guildcraft"
    > cover all rogues--thieves, bards, guilders, and the like?

    That's a better idea than a book solely devoted to bards. This book
    could expand and clarify trading rules (such as whether you need a
    guild at each end of a trade route), rules for runnig spy
    networks and covert operations etc in addition to class-related info.

    Another nice thing would be a BOOK OF WARCRAFT (oops, no plaguerism
    intended...). Basically, this could be a book for the landed regents
    and fighters (which is, at least in Anuire, often the same). It could
    contain information on fighters, sieges rules that *work*, and most
    important, how to give landed rulers a break against the guilds.

    just my 2 GB

    Kai

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