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  1. #11
    Glenn Robb
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    I still don't think that the players should act like Captain Kirk, althou=
    gh
    Sepsis' arguments are sound. Normal adventures can't support that kind o=
    f level
    without a price. But a `Henry V' type adventure would work wonders.

    In that type, the PC regent leads entire armies to War. Certain things g=
    et to be
    roleplayed like the initial insult, the call to War, finding traitors in =
    the
    midst, and the forging of treaties at the Meeting Table. Even a wedding =
    between
    the Regent and the crown princess of the other realm would be wonderful.

    That's the basic plot of 'Henry V.' In 'Henry V' not only King Harry (He=
    nry the
    Fifth) went to war because of his Pedigree, but because he could prove to=
    be a
    just and good ruler. Although he didn't want War with France in the first=
    place.
    And he was loved by his subjects and soldiers because of it.

    But the usual Adventures are just to mundane for the Regent to go on. Be=
    sides
    that, there are problems for the DM. The DM has to work to keep the Gods=
    out of
    the Story because the player is playing a Character that is on the second=
    level of
    acutual Scope.

    What makes you think that a player is going to deal with criminals in his=
    kingdom
    personally, having already dealt with other King/Queen Regents? For my i=
    deas, I
    would watch Shakespeare's stories about England's Kings and Queens before=
    I would
    even allow the Regents to go on adventures. That way, I could tailor eac=
    h
    adventure for the Regent, without forcing the scope from getting too high
    (bringing the Gods into the story) or too low (mundane, mainstream advent=
    ures).

    But I have only seen one of Shakespeare's royal plays, `Henry V,' and doz=
    ens of
    Classic Trek episodes (I've seen every one at least twice). And I know w=
    hich
    adventures are appropriate for the main characters and which are just pla=
    in. So
    until I see Richard I, II, III, IV and Henry VI, VII, and VIII; I'll just=
    tell my
    PCs that the Regent option is out.

    Or, if they really want to do it, then I'll just have to read them. But =
    it's not
    the same. . .

    =97 Elton Robb
    "Your Generously Liberal GM.
    I break all the rules."

  2. #12
    RMoraza@aol.co
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    Elton Robb
    In a message dated 97-10-08 22:14:09 EDT, you write:

    >

    It states in the Atlas of Cerilia (I think) that after the Battle of
    Deismaar, the new gods made a pact of uninvolvement with the people of the
    land. Now, granted, you can run your campaign anyway you want to, but I think
    most people don't run Birthright like Forgotten Realms, where the gods show
    up every day.

    There are lots of reasons for a PC regent to decide to personally handle a
    matter -
    all it takes is a little creativity and imagination. Maybe you should expand
    your horizons a little. There's a lot more to life than Star trek.

    Alison
    RMoraza@aol.com

  3. #13
    Neil Barnes
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    Ed wrote:
    > I would also like to point out a large number of the Knights of the Round
    > Table were kings or at least "landed knights" who, while responsible for
    > domains of their own, still spent the vast majority of their time going on
    > adventures on behalf of their High King, Arthur Pendragon. Arthur himself
    > (especially in the older legends, before the creation of Lancelot) went on
    > adventures quite often as well (mostly before his marriage to
    > Guinevere--which signified his transition from hero to caretaker ... oops,
    > starting to discuss my master's thesis here ;-)).

    Don't forget Richard Coeur de Leon, who spent about a total of three weeks
    in his entire life in his kingdom of England, instead spending most of his
    time campaigning in France, committing an interesting variety of
    atrocities in the middle east and languishing in a German cell. He was in
    fact incapable of speaking English.

    John Lackland gets a bad rap thanks to Robin Hood, but the excessive taxes
    were being raised to finance Richard's little hobbies, and he was
    otherwise an excellent king.

    neil

  4. #14
    Glenn Robb
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    Okay guys, I'm convinced. Thanks. Oh by the way, my life doesn't revol=
    ve
    around Star Trek. I was just alluding to a book called, "How to Write Sc=
    ience
    Fiction and Fantasy" by Orson Scott Card. In it he says that Novels that
    revolve around Kings and Queens are doomed to failure because they don't =
    have
    any freedom to act.

    =97 Elton Robb
    "Your Liberal Gamemaster.
    I break all the rules."

    Neil Barnes wrote:

    > Ed wrote:
    > > I would also like to point out a large number of the Knights of the R=
    ound
    > > Table were kings or at least "landed knights" who, while responsible =
    for
    > > domains of their own, still spent the vast majority of their time goi=
    ng on
    > > adventures on behalf of their High King, Arthur Pendragon. Arthur him=
    self
    > > (especially in the older legends, before the creation of Lancelot) we=
    nt on
    > > adventures quite often as well (mostly before his marriage to
    > > Guinevere--which signified his transition from hero to caretaker ... =
    oops,
    > > starting to discuss my master's thesis here ;-)).
    >
    > Don't forget Richard Coeur de Leon, who spent about a total of three we=
    eks
    > in his entire life in his kingdom of England, instead spending most of =
    his
    > time campaigning in France, committing an interesting variety of
    > atrocities in the middle east and languishing in a German cell. He was =
    in
    > fact incapable of speaking English.
    >
    > John Lackland gets a bad rap thanks to Robin Hood, but the excessive ta=
    xes
    > were being raised to finance Richard's little hobbies, and he was
    > otherwise an excellent king.
    >
    > neil
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  5. #15
    Tripp Elliott
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    Ed Stark wrote:
    >
    > At 03:32 PM 10/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
    > >> It is also a staple of the fantasy genre in literature that the
    > >> kings/court wizards/thieve's guild leaders run off on adventures. Think
    > >> of the Conan books, the books set in Krondor, even the Lord of the
    > >> Rings. And it's not without example in the real world either.
    > >
    > >Actually, in the Lord of the Rings, none of the established rulers went on
    > the
    > >adventure. Aragorn was "becomming" the king, but he wasn't yet.
    > >
    > I find this line of discussion very interesting, as it's one I have to
    > explain almost daily ... ;-)
    >
    > I would point out that Boromir and Faramir, heir-apparents to Gondor (in
    > turn) and rulers in their own right (they were, in BR terms, vassals to
    > Denethor, ruling selected parts of their domains) both adventured as part
    > of their duties. Legolas was the son of Thranduil the Elvenking (while it
    > doesn't say whether or not he ruled part of Mirkwood, he was certainly a
    > prince), and Theoden, at the end, rode off to war with his heir Eomer at
    > his side.
    >
    > I would also like to point out a large number of the Knights of the Round
    > Table were kings or at least "landed knights" who, while responsible for
    > domains of their own, still spent the vast majority of their time going on
    > adventures on behalf of their High King, Arthur Pendragon. Arthur himself
    > (especially in the older legends, before the creation of Lancelot) went on
    > adventures quite often as well (mostly before his marriage to
    > Guinevere--which signified his transition from hero to caretaker ... oops,
    > starting to discuss my master's thesis here ;-)).

    Possibly a better example of this would be Thorin Oakenshield who was
    soo blessed as to have 12 Lieutenants.

    Tripp

  6. #16
    Ed Stark
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    At 08:31 AM 10/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
    >
    >Possibly a better example of this would be Thorin Oakenshield who was
    >soo blessed as to have 12 Lieutenants.

    Good point!

    Ed Stark
    Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
    Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
    TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com

  7. #17
    FrenzyK2@aol.co
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    Using BR Adventures for a norma

    In a message dated 97-10-09 02:12:21 EDT, you write:

    >
    >Actually, in the Lord of the Rings, none of the established rulers went on
    >the
    >adventure. Aragorn was "becomming" the king, but he wasn't yet.
    >
    >

    A great piece of fantasy dealing with rulers and their adventures, whether
    war campaigns or other is the "Game of Thrones" by George R.R. Martin. This
    novel has been a great inspiration to me for running a BR game. Before I
    read the book I wondered what to do, but as I read the book I got some wild
    ideas.
    The number of adventures that you can run without ever using "Dungeons" is
    phenomenal. Going to other kingdoms, intrigue in your own and other
    kingdoms, and sure every now and then throw in a good dungeon crawl for the
    Hack and Slashers. Just so long as they can trust their non PC lieutenants.
    (which the usually cannot).

    Thanks,

    Christian Johnson

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